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Potter351

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:26 am


KimCL
He wasn't bashing your religion, he was bashing your spelling.
She dosen't care about spelling, just the "punctuation" and whats wrong with my spelling she's already pmed me about that like 4 times a couple of days ago. Then she said people like you makes me agree that they should teach creationism and evolution. That is total discrimination of the way i am.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:36 am


-__- You know, with all this religion arguing going on, I forgot the purpose of this topic...

There's tons of stuff like that in the book. Like, how Minerva is the goddess of knowledge (and many other things, too lazy to check right now). I had found some other stuff, but i forget now. sweatdrop

Sumurika


Potter351

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:38 am


kagome_chan001
-__- You know, with all this religion arguing going on, I forgot the purpose of this topic...

There's tons of stuff like that in the book. Like, how Minerva is the goddess of knowledge (and many other things, too lazy to check right now). I had found some other stuff, but i forget now. sweatdrop
If you remember tell us because i keep tabs on stuff like this.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:49 pm


Whats wrong with it? THIS IS A LITERATE GUILD.

And you said you believed in evolution. Therefore you misunderstood what he was saying.

KimCL
Captain


[Belle Morte]

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:01 pm


I really tire of all this fighting regarding literacy. there should be no fighting over this subject, because lteracy should be automatic. It is in the guild rules that you must be at least semi litterate
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:33 pm


Potter351
if you remeber tell us because i keep tabs on stuff like this


Okay, I don't care what sort of religious arguements are taking place, take them with dignity and be literate like you were asked. It's right on the join form, I'm taking ten non existant points from Gryffindor for it. We take these things seriously, being overly illiterate is an offense worth banning.

Baby Phantomhive
Vice Captain


Sumurika

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:12 pm


Quote:
Your Gaia Name:
Why you want to be in the guild?:
Are you literate, or at least semi-literate?:

Answer these simple questions about Harry Potter.
What color are Harry's eyes?:
Ron's eyes?:
Who's wand core is the same as Harry's?:
Who is Harry Potter?:
How many of the 6 books have you read?:
Which ones?:
Which movies have you seen?:


They've got a point...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:28 pm


did you change your name?

[Belle Morte]


KimCL
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:13 pm


majestueux
Potter351
if you remeber tell us because i keep tabs on stuff like this


Okay, I don't care what sort of religious arguements are taking place, take them with dignity and be literate like you were asked. It's right on the join form, I'm taking ten non existant points from Gryffindor for it. We take these things seriously, being overly illiterate is an offense worth banning.


Thanks for sorting this out Maj. <3
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:30 pm


I wasn't saying you had to believe in creationism. I simply think you should learn about what it is you don't believe in. Creationists are forced to learn about evolution even though they believe in it. It's called tolerance. In oder to becompletle tolerant, you need to have some sort of knowledge regarding such things as religion and culture and such.

It's just knowledge. It's not going to poison your mind.

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You may be bashing your own religion, but other people follow it too. You're bashing them along with yourself.

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potter351
he dosent care about spelling just the "punctuation" and whats wrong with my spelling he already pmed me about that like 4 times a couple of days ago. and then he said people like you makes me agree that they should teach creationism and evolution. That is total discrimination of the way i am.


I'M A GIRL.


How is that discrimination? O_o I simply think people should have knowledge of what other people believe in before they start bashing it.

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I never once said creationism was right, or that evolutionism was right. I'm not going to preach about it either, since I don't have the knowledge to back up either idea.

Oh snaps.


Potter351

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:24 am


KimCL
Whats wrong with it? THIS IS A LITERATE GUILD.

And you said you believed in evolution. Therefore you misunderstood what he was saying.

Forgive me if im out of place but i thought this is a Harry Potter Guild or did you guys change the name to the Harry Potter Literate Guild or something like that. Yes it says you have to be literate but what line is it that says your not literate give me a perspective i can look at here. If you needed me to be more literate you could have just said so.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:38 am


Hello! We have been trying to get you to be more literate for months!

When you filled out the form...it made clear that this is a literate Harry Potter guild And the rest of your post I can't make out, it makes no sense.

Now you've got points taken away from Gryffindor, you've had TWO mods (Maj and myself)INCLUDING the owner of this guild (Fear My Bloody Fangs) tell you to be more literate.

KimCL
Captain


Potter351

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:58 am


KimCL
Hello! We have been trying to get you to be more literate for months!

When you filled out the form...it made clear that this is a literate Harry Potter guild And the rest of your post I can't make out, it makes no sense.

Now you've got points taken away from Gryffindor, you've had TWO mods (Maj and myself)INCLUDING the owner of this guild (Fear My Bloody Fangs) tell you to be more literate.
Fine i get it i have to be more literate. Now can we get back to what this is thread is about. "Things that contradict in the books about mythology."
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:29 pm


Sure we can. Thanks for trying to be more literate.

KimCL
Captain


sakuraso

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:08 am


KimCL
Since JK Rowling lives in Britian, and most of them are Catholic, even if she's not, she probably think a snake was evil.


Uhm...no... not really, no. >.>; Definitely not 'most'.


Anyway;

Is she necessarily using popular mythology or symbolism? I don't remember her writing that snakes are evil, just that Voldemort took them as one of his symbols. Besides, many snakes are venomous, and that could be the reason she used them to represent Voldemort. They are also seen as cunning and intelligent and all those other representations usually cited when discussing Slytherin.
And Phoenixes are, in mythology, a symbol of rebirth.
She also uses things from everywhere, (ancient) mythology, history, stories, so it's not impossible that she could be using a Christian idea... >.>

And can I just point out a fallacy in your reasoning?
What you're saying is:
Voldemort is evil.
Voldemort's symbol/sign is a snake.
Therefore snakes are evil.


And that's just a bad argument... it's just like reductio ad Hitlerum...
It's as if you were saying:
Hitler was evil.
Hitler was a vegetarian.
Therefore all vegetarians are evil.


Voldemort uses a snake as a symbol, however that does not mean that snakes are evil.

Snakes as symbols:

Wikipedia.org
In Egyptian history, the snake occupies a primary role with the Nile cobra adorning the crown of the pharaoh in ancient times. It was worshipped as one of the Gods and was also used for sinister purposes including killing an opponent or for suicide as Cleopatra did.

India is often called the land of snakes and is steeped in tradition regarding snakes. Snakes are worshipped as gods even today with many women pouring milk on snake pits (despite snakes' aversion for milk). The cobra is seen on the neck of Shiva and Vishnu is depicted often as sleeping only on a 7 headed snake. There are also several temples in India solely for cobras sometimes called Nagraj (King of Snakes) and it is believed that snakes are symbols of fertility.


Also, back to Greek mythology, snakes were a symbol of healing, not health, I'll quote Wikipedia again, since they say it in a better way than I can XD

Wikipedia.org
In honor of Asclepius, snakes were often used in healing rituals. Non-poisonous snakes were left to crawl on the floor in dormitories where the sick and injured slept.


It could be a dark sense of irony on J.K.R.'s part, having a symbol of healing as Voldemort's sign. [Maybe - Voldemort used a snake as his symbol because he wanted to 'heal' the wizarding community of all muggle influence? Just a thought~]

And that was way too long. xD;

Sumurika
-__- You know, with all this religion arguing going on, I forgot the purpose of this topic...

There's tons of stuff like that in the book. Like, how Minerva is the goddess of knowledge (and many other things, too lazy to check right now). I had found some other stuff, but i forget now. sweatdrop


>.>; Minerva is the goddess of knowledge, in Roman Mythology. The Greek counterpart being Athena/Athene.



I haven't found many mistakes in her mythological/historical knowledge~ J.K.R. is rather good with her research... well... apart from her geography xD But I think we can forgive one mistake over a trainstation. xd
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