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Do you draw with or without guidlines?
  With, they rock!
  Without, they are a waste of time!
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Sevamara

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:24 am


First of all, this is kind of weird how my friend, who can draw great without guidlines and it doesn't take forever, wants to draw the way I do, with guidlines, because she wants to spend a longer time drawing. Me on the other hand, I want to draw without guidlines because it doesn't take so much time. Is that something I shoudl want to do? Either way I always end up hating my artwork most of the time. My Dad says she draws that way because she's practiced drawing that way for a long time, I get that. But how can I practice drawing like that when every single time I try, I end up getting pissed and ripping up the drawing and I leave.

Is drawing without guidlines better than with guidlines. I know it depends on what you practiced and the person's preference, but could I have some advice here? confused
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:20 pm


I started off drawing without guidelines. It was called back-and-forth picture referencing. I developed my skills by looking at pictures of other stuff and drawing a replica on paper. You'd be surprised how good you get at it. Then I switched to guidelines, because having shapes made it so much easier to plan and "mold" what I wanted to draw (typically a character) onto a pre-existing skeleton.

Non guideline drawing is just as good as having guidelines, especially for making quick sketches for cartoons. HOWEVER, I assure you that the friend would have just as much trouble planning how to compose some complicated painting or picture than someone who already composed the basic look through using guidelines.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:34 am


I'm used to drawing with something like guidelines. Drawing with guidelines is a great way to practice drawing certain things and once you get used to it you should practice with out guidelines. I would say this approach is best.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:18 am


Well first of all, it's not something you get can do once and master it, you need lots of practice. I've been drawing manga for 5 years now and just I'm just now starting to think that my drawings are ready to be shown to the public. I started off with guidelines and got the basic anatomy down. After that I started looking at other artists' drawing and redrawing them, which made me get a feel for how other people draw their manga. Now I use a mixture of guidelines and no guidelines depending on what the poses are. I hope this helped =)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:54 pm


what do u mean by guidelines? 0.o...I know I reference pics a lot, and when I have trouble finding how a specific pose works, look for examples of it. After that, I usually draw a page or 2 full of characters in that pose--it takes a while, but I find that it helps me commit how that position looks to memory.
If it is because your drawings end up looking crooked, get some tracing paper--(not sure if this will work for you, but worked for me) print out a couple examples of well-constructed pictures (correct anatomy, etc) Then trace these examples(NOTE: trace them like you aren't "tracing it" but more like you are drawing it...hard to explain...use normal pencil strokes to draw, not short ones making sure you always stay in the lines. When you get used to tracing these pictures like you would draw any other picture, you will develop muscle memory in your hands sort of on how to draw certain shapes of the body correctly. All you need to do now is remember that the shapes are there, which can be done by looking at lots of different pictures, and noting how muscles and bones work into the overall effect. Once you know where muscles and bones are, and have trained your hands to draw them correctly, then you can create art of your own ^^ (that looks correct, at least)

hope I helped...not sure if this works for u guys, but it helped me ^^
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:05 am


it really depends on you, i use guidelines as a skeleton for my artwork since i dont really use other pictures for reference.

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Keessa

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:26 am


You should probably try to make the switch to no guide-lines gradually. after a while drawing you should be able to draw the head at least without guide lines, or you could try to mix both techniques. i especially need the guide line of the top of the head or else when i draw the hair, the head looks deformed and guide line are helpful when i'm drawing new poses. they're not really a waste of time because you'd probably end up wasting more time getting frustrated without guide-lines. anyways, it doesn't really matter if you do or don't use guide-lies as long as you're happy with the outcome of your art. plus, i've always told people who ask me how to draw to use guide-lines
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:26 am


It depends on what you want to do, really. Even to this day, I rely on guidelines when drawing characters because I draw my characters from different angles all the time, sometimes very extreme angles, and the only way I can figure out how to draw them that way is to plan it out ahead of time with guidelines. Also, in animation, drawing with guidelines is extremely important or else your facial features/body features will run all over the place and your work will look sloppy (but that's just animation).

Using guidelines lets you have a sense of consistency in your artwork. I know people who have been drawing without guidelines, but they usually rely on same-face techniques, where they only draw maybe 3-body/face types and that's it.

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Shokai

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:23 pm


Honestly, you should do with what you feel comfortable with. If you like using guidelines and if they benefit you in drawing, then by all means go for it.

I use guidelines all the time. A friend I have who is a more experienced drawer doesnt. I use guidelines because they help me a lot and aid me in getting the proportions right. I also use guidelines to create poses, for without them, I would not know how to create one out of the blue.

I think that as you keep on drawing, you will probably find yourself not using guidelines. There are in some instances where I go without using guidelines because I know where a thing such as a limb go. I still have trouble drawing legs, so I use guidelines.

If you like guidelines and if they help you, go for it! Everyone has different ways of learning. biggrin
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