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Mirenithil

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:19 am


An informative page on bottle spells in general: http://www.luckymojo.com/bottlespells.html and another on honey jars in hoodoo: http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

Excerpt from Lucky Mojo
A spell bottle is a bottle into which a magical spell has been cast in the form of physical items used to ensure that the spell results in the desired outcome.

A bottle spell is a magical spell that is contained within a bottle, and which, when finished, is expected to work for the ends one desires.

There are many types of bottle spells used in folk magic traditions from around the world. Almost every culture that uses bottles (or gourds, or animal horns) as containers also has developed ways to use those containers to hold works of magical spell craft.


Excerpt from Lucky Mojo
The Honey Jar Spell is one of the oldest forms of bottle spell in the world. There are so many variations that i call it a "spell family." Most of them consist of a jar of sweetener into which you place the personal concerns of the person you want to influence, along with spiritually powerful magical herbs, wrapped in a name-paper or petition packet, and then burning a candle on top of the jar after dressing it with an appropriate conjure oil.

This form of hoodoo spell casting is employed when you want to set up a powerful sweetening spell in a small place and keep it working for as long as you wish. Honey jars are extremely convenient and one reason for their continued popularity is that although they can be worked on an altar like other forms of bottle spell, they can also be literally hidden in plain sight in a kitchen cabinet.


Honey jars have only recently really sunk into my magical awareness - don't ask me why it took so long for such a folksy spell type to register with me, considering folksy type stuff is all I do, but it did. *laff* When I lived in Southern California, the botanicas I'd go into all sold honey jars for a variety of specific purposes; I don't think I ever saw a botanica sell just plain honey. (I suppose that if a client wanted -that-, they could just go to the grocery store, right?) The most frequent jars I saw were Honey of Love - Miel de Amor, but there were honey jars for other purposes, too, and the honey inside them was invariably tinted to indicate the kind of work it was for.

The basic idea of a honey jar is that it's generally speaking a long term thing. You can work the same honey jar for -years- if need be to keep a situation sweet (a situation at work, or a home situation with a parent, a sibling, a spouse, a child, etc, or any other purpose where you want to sweeten relationships.)

Bottle spells seem to differ than honey jars in that, while both of them are shaken to 'activate' them as needed, candles don't seem to be burnt on the standard bottle spell as often (though I imagine you could do that too if you wanted.) In the hoodoo way of doing things for honey jars, you write your petition paper, bless it with condition oil, fold it towards you until it won't fold anymore, and stick it in the honey jar. The lid then goes on the jar and a dressed candle is lit atop the lid and allowed to burn out. This is repeated as necessary over time, sometimes for years if a situation's ongoing.

Possible discussion points:
- Have you ever used a bottle spell? (maybe even the old classical European style anti-witch bottle full of rusty bent pins, nails, hair etc, and urine?...)
- If you have used a bottle spell or a honey jar spell, I'd be quite interested in hearing how you did it, regardless of the tradition you were working from (or if you just made it up as you went.)
- Was it a longterm, ongoing thing? How long did you work it for?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:54 pm


What are other types of bottle spells? I've never gotten into folk spells, hoodoo, or anything like that... The only one I ever learned was putting holly branches on the mantles of doors and windows, and I don't even remember what that's supposed to protect against. If I do anything, it's on instinct and based in physical movement.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:33 pm


I have a jar full of sea water/sand/seaweed that I collected when I went to Florida. The idea was to bottle the power of the ocean for a later use. Of course I never used it, but it still seems to have power to it if I ever decided to use it, I guess.

Not really a spell, but I think it's related.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:55 pm


Hmm. You know, I knew of this sort of spell when I was a kid but never tried it.

This makes me want to try a honey jar spell to see how well it works. I have the PERFECT situation for it, because I've been working with a woman who is often times intolerable with her rude behavior, laziness and incompetence. Never before has there been a job that I could not stand showing up for, and I've worked in all KINDS of situations.

The 30 minutes a day I interact with this woman are usually enough to sour my mood for the rest of my shift, that's how bad it gets. She's condescending, takes credit for the other employees' work (then brags about it) while placing the blame on us if something goes wrong - even if the error was hers. She will take an order from a customer and, if she doesn't feel like doing it herself, will set it aside for someone else to handle after she leaves for the day - even if the customer needs the job done within an hour or two, and she's the only one present for the rest of the night. She's been disciplined for shouting at customers and trying to write up employees without a legitimate reason, she will call in to work to tell everyone that she doesn't feel like coming in that day, without advance notice or someone to fill in for her, etc. Why she still has her job, I'll never know.

In short, I'm stuck cleaning up after her, correcting her mistakes, handling the tough orders and SHE gets the credit, and not to mention a higher hourly pay rate because she managed to get promoted when one of the other ladies in our department quit.

This is the perfect opportunity for me to see if a honey jar really works. Give me a few days to set one up and wait for results, and I'll come back with a response.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:49 am


Kind of an irrelevant thing to say... but would this tie at all to me wanting to put things into bottles for some sort of purpose, but when I was a kid? sweatdrop

I really did have such an interest. I mean, nowadays I have glass jars from spaghetti sauce I'm saving... maybe I could put those to use now.
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