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Ms Edward

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:40 pm


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Hello everyone, I am Ms. Edward or Ed is just fine too. I answer to both. Well, I am here just like everyone else that comes to this thread seeking help on their art. I have a good structure started out but I still need that little imput to make it better. I've have improoved a great deal since I first started and man was that bad. I just need the help to push it even further. So critique away. Also if you would like, I love red lining. It helps me understand better than reading the words. I learn by showing and not reading. So red line the things that need to be red lined. Two If you would like I am up for practice. That means if you want me to draw something to improve on my skill tell me to draw it and I will. I dont have much to do this summer till school starts up again. It shall be fun. With out futher ado, the first sketch/drawing in the Art Book.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:24 am


I find the joints to be too small in proportion to the arms and legs, but I love the way you draw the clothes to flow with the body

So no red lining from me ^^; I think one of the more talented people's will help you

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:49 am


Yes thank you for your imput. This I know about my proportions. I just have a terrible time with them.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:09 pm


i guess i could do the red line if no one else wants to but i'll do it tomorrow if you don;t mind waiting. i'm exhausted from work

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:56 am


I'd say always use a reference of a female body, even if its not in the right pose itll simple guide you towards the correct proportions.
Also, post more drawings. Maybe a good 4 or 5 well be able to see the variations in stuff and pick out the strong and weak points.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:10 pm


As a request that I post more art for understanding, here is a few more drawings. Facial and full body. These are things I did while on vacation a few weeks back. I have so many drawings scattered about, it will take a while to get together.


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Facial


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:11 pm


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to be honest i don't quite know what going on in the leg area since there in't much to reference but i too a guess i hope its right and that this helps

and taking a quick look over your other drawings i'd highly suggest an anatomy book. you kinda have a general idea of wher the bones and muscles go but i don;t think you quite understand it properly.

as for proportions here is how i remember. a normal man is about 7 and 1/2 heads high. the head is the 1st head (duh) and the pelvis is the 4th head down. everything else should just fall into place.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:06 am


Thank you for the red lining. Yes, I will do that. Invest in an anatomy book. It will be much later into the fall season though.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:13 pm


haha yea i forgot to mention but make sure its a anatomy book for the artist. there is a big difference between an artist one and a medical one
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:54 pm


I love that you're attempting distortion in proportion, however, they still need to be proportonal.

First, general stuff.

1) Don't cut off the feet. If you run out of room, rip another page, add to it and tape the back. Never cut it off. That looks bad and you're blocking your creative process.

2) Don't forget that everything has mass and volume. Even a flat piece of paper takes up space. Her crotch isn't taking up space. That includes her hair. Hair is a separate volume that sits on top of the head. Don't draw them as the same mass. I like to draw the full skull then add hair when I'm working on the shape of the clothing.

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While proportions get distorted, anatomy stays the same. The way the skeleton is pieced together doesn't change. It helps a lot to keep a picture on hand just to remember how it sticks together.

There is a knob of bone that comes out where your femur sockets to your pelvis. This you can see on the surface of the skin. This is where the hips are widest. People tend to learn the skin first, but you have to know how something is put together in order to understand how it works and replicate it. I do really enjoy that you're expressing distribution of fat on her body. Many people forget that there is fat under the skin and that it's distribution of fat that ultimately makes the female body alluring.

Pay attention to the distribution of weight. Your head is very heavy and it must be supported by the body. You will lose balance and fall if you try to stand that way. Keep the feet under the head when the feet are together in a standing position. (Or between the feet when they're parted.)

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Now that that's out of the way, here's the part I really think is important when it comes to your growing as an artist outside of technical skill. I like your self assurance in expressing the body as YOU like. I think you should stick with it and I think you're one of not too many people that I can say is actually developing their style as they learn.

When you're distorting propotions, it's important to keep the ratios of proportion (as I said before) and it's just as important to have a rhythm in form. You've got the start of one, but it's off. Think of it like a beat. You want it to be in the right rhythm.

From now on, scan you rough sketches and then make a layer in a program and black out the figure to show the silhouette. (You can just print the scan and use a marker or something too.)

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You can immediately see how strong your design is. What you look for is the pattern of symmetry and asymmetry. The body (in an attractive character) is symmetrical. You offset that by making things asymmetrical. You have great asymmetry in the hair and with the lean of the crown. (Crown should be symmetrical by the way, because it's a geometric shape. (Cylinder.)) The problem with your silhouette is that it lacks a pattern.

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I straightened it out and simplified the form to show the symmetry. (I wouldn't try adding perspective just yet because it doesn't help to complicate things too fast.) See how the body line has symmetry? And where there is that asymmetry to break it up? Items worn by the character usually give the bits that asymmetrical.

Anyway, between them is what I was talking about with the pattern of distortion. Try patterning your exaggerations and see what you come up with. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:56 pm


Thank you all so much for the help. I will begin right away at practicing drawing and improving. All your tips are helpful and I will be sending you more sketches to keep you all tap in on my progress.
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