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Generous Phantom

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:19 pm


...a soldier update. He needs something. I can't decide what, but he needs something.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:23 pm


The soldier NEEDS JACK DIDLY SQUAT!
He's already fun to play with and entertaining still to a lot of people.
Now the Engie, now that's a different story.
He's the person who needs a update.
He's boring and not a lot of people play him.
He needs weapons that will make him more entertaining to play so we won't have CP modes where one team has no engie holding down the defense.

Most preferred something to make the engie more offensive.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:17 pm


iRavi
The soldier NEEDS JACK DIDLY SQUAT!
He's already fun to play with and entertaining still to a lot of people.
Now the Engie, now that's a different story.
He's the person who needs a update.
He's boring and not a lot of people play him.
He needs weapons that will make him more entertaining to play so we won't have CP modes where one team has no engie holding down the defense.

Most preferred something to make the engie more offensive.

Engie is my favorite class. Not that boring if you know where to set up. And I rarely play defensive. Much more fun to set up on the enemy team's territory.

He does need an update, though. Like a walking sentry. Yeah. Instead of rockets, give the sentry legs or wheels. I really don't know what else an engineer would use. Really, all that would help him would be upgrades to the sentry. Bubbleshields, anti-spy devices, self repairing, etc.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:40 pm


132rock244
iRavi
The soldier NEEDS JACK DIDLY SQUAT!
He's already fun to play with and entertaining still to a lot of people.
Now the Engie, now that's a different story.
He's the person who needs a update.
He's boring and not a lot of people play him.
He needs weapons that will make him more entertaining to play so we won't have CP modes where one team has no engie holding down the defense.

Most preferred something to make the engie more offensive.

Engie is my favorite class. Not that boring if you know where to set up. And I rarely play defensive. Much more fun to set up on the enemy team's territory.

He does need an update, though. Like a walking sentry. Yeah. Instead of rockets, give the sentry legs or wheels. I really don't know what else an engineer would use. Really, all that would help him would be upgrades to the sentry. Bubbleshields, anti-spy devices, self repairing, etc.

In the loadout, there are three spots.
Wrench, Pistol, Shotgun.
So this makes me believe these are the only things that might be updated.
I doubt were getting new buildings though.
My ideas would be:

Wrench:
-A wrench that speeds up the building process by 2x fast but you can only have a lvl 1 building.
-A screwdriver that instantly kills sappers but a slower building process.
-???

Pistol:
-Less damage, less ammo. But each shot that hits a enemy drops a small amount of ammo for anyone to pick up.
(I actually think this is sort of useful)
-a pistol that shoots 3 bullets at the same time all at the same time in three different directions to allow the engie to spy check.

Shotgun:
-(same as the first idea for the pistol)


I really have no idea for the shotgun.

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Isaol

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:23 pm


iRavi
132rock244
iRavi
The soldier NEEDS JACK DIDLY SQUAT!
He's already fun to play with and entertaining still to a lot of people.
Now the Engie, now that's a different story.
He's the person who needs a update.
He's boring and not a lot of people play him.
He needs weapons that will make him more entertaining to play so we won't have CP modes where one team has no engie holding down the defense.

Most preferred something to make the engie more offensive.

Engie is my favorite class. Not that boring if you know where to set up. And I rarely play defensive. Much more fun to set up on the enemy team's territory.

He does need an update, though. Like a walking sentry. Yeah. Instead of rockets, give the sentry legs or wheels. I really don't know what else an engineer would use. Really, all that would help him would be upgrades to the sentry. Bubbleshields, anti-spy devices, self repairing, etc.

In the loadout, there are three spots.
Wrench, Pistol, Shotgun.
So this makes me believe these are the only things that might be updated.
I doubt were getting new buildings though.
My ideas would be:

Wrench:
-A wrench that speeds up the building process by 2x fast but you can only have a lvl 1 building.
-A screwdriver that instantly kills sappers but a slower building process.
-???

Pistol:
-Less damage, less ammo. But each shot that hits a enemy drops a small amount of ammo for anyone to pick up.
(I actually think this is sort of useful)
-a pistol that shoots 3 bullets at the same time all at the same time in three different directions to allow the engie to spy check.

Shotgun:
-(same as the first idea for the pistol)


I really have no idea for the shotgun.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 am


Isaol, don't be an a**. You're not coming up with any ideas.

Great ideas though, Ravi.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:12 am


I do have to agree that the weapons are sort of gimmicky or situational.
But that's all I can think of in a quick moment. They don't even help the engie become more entertaining. Just random thoughts that seemed like good ideas at the time.

: D I thought they were unique ideas.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:19 am


I know. Instead of the pistol, give the engie a compression blast gun. Gets rid of those damn sticky bombs and can push spies and such away from the sentry (or into it's line of fire).

Or maybe Valve could go back to its Meet the Engineer video and do something with the guitar. Maybe it replaces the wrench and repairs and upgrades buildings near you, but it repairs and upgrades slower, you can't move, and the noise can be heard and followed by other players. Not the best idea, but it seems more like something Valve would come up with, considering the rather unusual updates as of late.

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Radiosquid

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:11 pm


The engie definitely needs a scientific sort of weapon. I was thinking of something completely different from the pistol and shotgun getup. Maybe a gravity gun type weapon that pulls enemies towards it just a little bit for about two seconds. This could be used to make an enemy an easier target for team mates or pull an enemy into the range of your sentry gun. It kinda reminds me of the sandman in the way that it takes control away from the player, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to shoot at the offending engie! Also, it could be used to punt away sticky bombs!

Maybe as a wrench replacement he could have a crowbar! It upgrades machines at 75% speed, and can't make them build faster like the wrench, but it does more damage and has a (slightly) higher crit rate. It could be used with the gravity gun to bring players close and beat them down! That's all the ideas I have for weapon replacements.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:04 pm


Radiosquid
The engie definitely needs a scientific sort of weapon. I was thinking of something completely different from the pistol and shotgun getup. Maybe a gravity gun type weapon that pulls enemies towards it just a little bit for about two seconds. This could be used to make an enemy an easier target for team mates or pull an enemy into the range of your sentry gun. It kinda reminds me of the sandman in the way that it takes control away from the player, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to shoot at the offending engie! Also, it could be used to punt away sticky bombs!

Maybe as a wrench replacement he could have a crowbar! It upgrades machines at 75% speed, and can't make them build faster like the wrench, but it does more damage and has a (slightly) higher crit rate. It could be used with the gravity gun to bring players close and beat them down! That's all the ideas I have for weapon replacements.

Crowbar would be useful if the engie had a decent amount of health. A measly 125 isn't very useful in a melee fight. Maybe if he could hit as fast as the scout.

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Radiosquid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:04 am


132rock244
Radiosquid
The engie definitely needs a scientific sort of weapon. I was thinking of something completely different from the pistol and shotgun getup. Maybe a gravity gun type weapon that pulls enemies towards it just a little bit for about two seconds. This could be used to make an enemy an easier target for team mates or pull an enemy into the range of your sentry gun. It kinda reminds me of the sandman in the way that it takes control away from the player, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to shoot at the offending engie! Also, it could be used to punt away sticky bombs!

Maybe as a wrench replacement he could have a crowbar! It upgrades machines at 75% speed, and can't make them build faster like the wrench, but it does more damage and has a (slightly) higher crit rate. It could be used with the gravity gun to bring players close and beat them down! That's all the ideas I have for weapon replacements.

Crowbar would be useful if the engie had a decent amount of health. A measly 125 isn't very useful in a melee fight. Maybe if he could hit as fast as the scout.

Psh. Engie already owns in a melee fight. Him and the Medic are probably the best melee fighters. Just today, in fact, I went on a wrenchin' spree. Try it some time it's super fun.
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