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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:12 pm


I knew I had it already, but I've finally been diagnosed with depression and GAD, social phobia, OCD......mostly every anxiety disorder . I'm on antidepressants and everything and I know I won't automatically get better, but I think I'm getting worse. I'm 16, so of course driving and gettng my license was the highlight of my life up to this point. Got my license, got a car, but I'm terrified to drive. I had a fast food job and I'm so scared of social situations I couldn't handle it and quit. I really don't feel as though I can handle any job.

My problems are just that strong. I'm having frequent panic attacks almost daily and I keep having nightmares and weird dreams, if I can even get to sleep. I also have somewhat of disordered eating, like borderline anorexia (which I recovered from before sort of). So now it's just disordered eating. I'm terrified of reaching 100lbs. I count calories in everything and even use calculators to figure out exactly how many cals are in, say a cookie. One oreo! I can't help it. I'm not sure if it's related to my illnesses, but I'm always weak. I occasionally slip in and out of consciousness and I can barely stand 10min without getting dizzy and feeling faint. Should I just give up? I don't feel like I can ever overcome my problems.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:47 am


No, I wouldn't suggest giving up. It sounds like you're not healthy or happy right now, and you might not have to live this way. There are probably still a lot of doctors, types of therapy, and medications that you haven't tried yet. If you feel worse on any medication, let the doctor know. If you ever want to see a different doctor, go for it.

You can even ask their advice when it comes to jobs. I'm not at all surprised that you didn't like the fast food job, there's a lot of people, noise, fast movement, bright lights, etc. That would make a lot of people uncomfortable. I'd suggest something where you can work mostly alone, possibly doing something like filing or cleaning. Or something where you can ride a bike, like a paper route.

As for the weakness and feeling faint, that sounds like it certainly could be due to your diet. Without proper nutrition, you can get headaches, feel light headed, get tunnel vision, be unable to think clearly, or pass out. So a proper diet is extremely important. It's ok to watch what you eat and even to count calories as long as you are smart about it and give your body everything that it needs in terms of hydration, calories, variety, and nutrients.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:16 pm


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No, I wouldn't suggest giving up. It sounds like you're not healthy or happy right now, and you might not have to live this way. There are probably still a lot of doctors, types of therapy, and medications that you haven't tried yet. If you feel worse on any medication, let the doctor know. If you ever want to see a different doctor, go for it.

You can even ask their advice when it comes to jobs. I'm not at all surprised that you didn't like the fast food job, there's a lot of people, noise, fast movement, bright lights, etc. That would make a lot of people uncomfortable. I'd suggest something where you can work mostly alone, possibly doing something like filing or cleaning. Or something where you can ride a bike, like a paper route.

As for the weakness and feeling faint, that sounds like it certainly could be due to your diet. Without proper nutrition, you can get headaches, feel light headed, get tunnel vision, be unable to think clearly, or pass out. So a proper diet is extremely important. It's ok to watch what you eat and even to count calories as long as you are smart about it and give your body everything that it needs in terms of hydration, calories, variety, and nutrients.


Well, I have only been on two antidepressants, so I guess I'll have to try another one. But going from med to med gives me this feeling of hopelessness because they keep failing.

As for the job thing, that's only the tip of the iceberg. I have no clue about what I want my career to be. I'm a senior in high school now and I should have some idea right? I don't have a desire to work or go to college. I know not doing those things is unrealistic, but I can't help it. I just want to lay in bed. Half of the time I have to force myself out of bed just to eat! I don't know what to do. Especially if my problems follow me throughout my life. My mom wants me to be a nurse. Being a nurse when I can't even stand for a long time? When I'm scared of people? Not possible. I know what I want is more important, but if I don't think of anything soon I'm going to either live in my bed or have a career that I don't even like. As for a job now.....I'm 16. Can I get a job filing papers or cleaning for a company? And a paper route wouldn't be a good idea for a 16yr old by herself in my neighborhood.

I definitely don't take in enough calories a day. 1000 or less. Probably 1050-1100 on a good day. I can't help it, though. I'm so concerned about gaining weight that I can't eat right. My stomach also isn't at it's best and hasn't been for awhile. Sometimes I can't eat or drink because my stomach doesn't feel good. A couple weeks ago, my doctor said I was dehydrated, so I've been trying to drink more water and iced tea. I haven't been able to do that as much, so I'm probably still dehydrated. I do eat lots of fruits and vegetables and I don't eat fast food. That must not be enough, though sweatdrop .
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:44 pm


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As for the job thing, that's only the tip of the iceberg. I have no clue about what I want my career to be. I'm a senior in high school now and I should have some idea right?


Not necessarily. Most seniors don't know what they're going to do in terms of a career. Most people even switch majors in college. I changed my mind about exactly what I wanted to do many times throughout college, and even now I'm sort of open about what I do.

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I don't have a desire to work or go to college. I know not doing those things is unrealistic, but I can't help it. I just want to lay in bed.


Me too. Sleeping in and napping all day would be awesome. But you're right, it's not realistic. College and work can be fun, but they're not always. Sometimes they're just things we have to do, you know? I didn't want to go college at first, my father made me. I actually ended up liking it a lot though.


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I don't know what to do. Especially if my problems follow me throughout my life. My mom wants me to be a nurse. Being a nurse when I can't even stand for a long time? When I'm scared of people? Not possible. I know what I want is more important, but if I don't think of anything soon I'm going to either live in my bed or have a career that I don't even like. As for a job now.....I'm 16. Can I get a job filing papers or cleaning for a company?


Yeah, you might be able to get a filing job or something similar. And yes, working might be a challenge if these problems persist, but it's not impossible.


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I definitely don't take in enough calories a day. 1000 or less. Probably 1050-1100 on a good day. I can't help it, though. I'm so concerned about gaining weight that I can't eat right. My stomach also isn't at it's best and hasn't been for awhile. Sometimes I can't eat or drink because my stomach doesn't feel good. A couple weeks ago, my doctor said I was dehydrated, so I've been trying to drink more water and iced tea. I haven't been able to do that as much, so I'm probably still dehydrated. I do eat lots of fruits and vegetables and I don't eat fast food. That must not be enough, though sweatdrop .


Yeah, that's not healthy. Starving yourself in an effort to lose weight or keep weight off seems like it would make sense, but it's actually the opposite of how it works. See, when you don't get enough food your metabolism slows down. Your body basically says, "Whoa, there must be a food shortage. I'd better conserve." And that means you're more likely to gain weight. However, if you eat enough healthy food spread out in about six small meals a day, then your metabolism will pick up. Your body will say, "Ah, there's plenty of food, there's no need to conserve!"

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:19 pm


I actually do eat six small meals a day. I've been doing that ever since I read about it on some diet website. I know all about every new diet trick, metabolism, and everything. I'm that stuck on weight and body image. I still don't take in enough calories for eating six times a day, though. I know that it slows my metabolism and isn't healthy, but in my mind it's like less calories=skinny pretty body. It's like my brain has a mind of it's own lol (wow). I know that it's not healthy, but my brain says "So what? You'll be pretty. Put the apple down, you ate enough today!" xd
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:06 pm


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I actually do eat six small meals a day. I've been doing that ever since I read about it on some diet website. I know all about every new diet trick, metabolism, and everything. I'm that stuck on weight and body image. I still don't take in enough calories for eating six times a day, though. I know that it slows my metabolism and isn't healthy, but in my mind it's like less calories=skinny pretty body. It's like my brain has a mind of it's own lol (wow). I know that it's not healthy, but my brain says "So what? You'll be pretty. Put the apple down, you ate enough today!" xd



Then that's when you might want to seek the help of a mental health professional, because that's not healthy. As long as you're still growing, your body needs calories and nutrition so it can grow and develop properly.

Re: knowing what to do in life, I didn't figure out what to do until I was 21. I've changed my area of study twice and my major once. I've never had a "real job", just menial jobs primarily. I actually janitored from age 18 - 21 on and off, and once you're a bit older you can probably get a similar job.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:17 pm


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I actually do eat six small meals a day. I've been doing that ever since I read about it on some diet website. I know all about every new diet trick, metabolism, and everything. I'm that stuck on weight and body image. I still don't take in enough calories for eating six times a day, though. I know that it slows my metabolism and isn't healthy, but in my mind it's like less calories=skinny pretty body. It's like my brain has a mind of it's own lol (wow). I know that it's not healthy, but my brain says "So what? You'll be pretty. Put the apple down, you ate enough today!" xd



Then that's when you might want to seek the help of a mental health professional, because that's not healthy. As long as you're still growing, your body needs calories and nutrition so it can grow and develop properly.

Re: knowing what to do in life, I didn't figure out what to do until I was 21. I've changed my area of study twice and my major once. I've never had a "real job", just menial jobs primarily. I actually janitored from age 18 - 21 on and off, and once you're a bit older you can probably get a similar job.


I have a psychologist and psychiatrist. This problem came up before, but they don't quite understand the extend of it. The first thing I was asked was "How many times do you eat a day?" When I say six I guess they think I'm fine, but clearly I'm not. My mind is so jumbled, it's hard for me to explain my problems completely. This has been going on since 5th or 6th grade and I can't believe no one notices. I'm not doing it for attention, but my goodness! My mom buys me diet food, Wii Fit, sees that I don't eat as much as everyone else, but can't see a problem? When I do eat, she tells me I'm always hungry and eat too much. Wow, I think I know why I'm mentally ill now. stare

May I ask what you had decided to do? I think I might enjoy working with computers, art, or animals. My mom has been wanting me to get a high-paying job and now I'm stuck with that mentality, even though I know it's bad. I want to do what makes me happy, but because of my mom over the years, the question "Does it pay well? Will I be rich?" always pops up in my mind. I told her I wanted to be an artist when I was little (I love art), but she said they don't get paid well. Killed my dream crying .......sad now.....oh crap I'm ranting. So sorry.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:17 am


Yeah, it does sound like your mother might be contributing to your unhealthy behavior. It might even be wise to get family counseling if you haven't already because it sounds like your mother might not realize that she actually has an unhealthy way of thinking too.

If you have trouble explaining the situation, you could try writing a note to your psychologist or psychiatrist before you see them or you could even print out this page.

I agree that you should do what you want. You don't have to be rich. If you have an average income and if you end up with a partner with an average income, those two incomes together mean you can get a really nice house and live quite comfortably.

In terms of school and work, I got my two years degree in Criminal Justice. Then I switched majors and got my four year degree in Psychology. Then I ended up tutoring and working in a daycare. Now my partner pays all the bills, and I don't really work, but I occasionally clean my friend's house for a extra dollars when he's busy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:39 am


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Yeah, it does sound like your mother might be contributing to your unhealthy behavior. It might even be wise to get family counseling if you haven't already because it sounds like your mother might not realize that she actually has an unhealthy way of thinking too.

If you have trouble explaining the situation, you could try writing a note to your psychologist or psychiatrist before you see them or you could even print out this page.

I agree that you should do what you want. You don't have to be rich. If you have an average income and if you end up with a partner with an average income, those two incomes together mean you can get a really nice house and live quite comfortably.

In terms of school and work, I got my two years degree in Criminal Justice. Then I switched majors and got my four year degree in Psychology. Then I ended up tutoring and working in a daycare. Now my partner pays all the bills, and I don't really work, but I occasionally clean my friend's house for a extra dollars when he's busy.


I don't go back to my doc for a couple weeks sadly. Last time I was there my psychologist asked me if my mom noticed anything diferent about me because of the meds. I was going to tell her how my mom was, but she cut me off before I got a chance to. Maybe I need a new doctor. Oh, I don't know gonk . I just feel so let down by everyone (besides you all that have replied blaugh ) My mom would never go for family counseling, she's too......I can't even think of a word to describe her. Think of the evil stepmother in Cinderella or the wicked witch of the west from The Wizard of Oz.

That's great that everything still worked out for you, despite not working. Gives me hope. Thanks. Now I just have to narrow it down. Maybe a vet tech or graphic designer......hmm.
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My partner works with computers. He works from home over the internet doing something too technical for me to understand. xp

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:45 pm


That sounds like the perfect job! I sound lazy lol. What's like his official job title? Or like what did he major in? Btw I love Shel Silverstein. I read all of his poetry books. I had "Sick" memorized as a kid xd .
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:47 am


He actually did not go to college. So he's extremely lucky to have a natural technical talent that is sought after. I just asked him his title and he said he is a "senior system/network administrator." He said he "works with UNIX, a remotely administrated/multi-user operating system." He said he recommends looking into UNIX if you're not familiar with it and are interested in getting into that line of work.

I like Cloony the Clown. xp

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:05 am


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He actually did not go to college. So he's extremely lucky to have a natural technical talent that is sought after. I just asked him his title and he said he is a "senior system/network administrator." He said he "works with UNIX, a remotely administrated/multi-user operating system." He said he recommends looking into UNIX if you're not familiar with it and are interested in getting into that line of work.

I like Cloony the Clown. xp


Wow, no college. That's like a Bill Gates type of thing lol. I have no clue what a senior system/network administrator does sweatdrop , but I'm pretty good with computers. I'll look into it. Thanks a lot.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:29 am


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I have a psychologist and psychiatrist. This problem came up before, but they don't quite understand the extend of it. The first thing I was asked was "How many times do you eat a day?" When I say six I guess they think I'm fine, but clearly I'm not. My mind is so jumbled, it's hard for me to explain my problems completely. This has been going on since 5th or 6th grade and I can't believe no one notices. I'm not doing it for attention, but my goodness! My mom buys me diet food, Wii Fit, sees that I don't eat as much as everyone else, but can't see a problem? When I do eat, she tells me I'm always hungry and eat too much. Wow, I think I know why I'm mentally ill now. stare

May I ask what you had decided to do? I think I might enjoy working with computers, art, or animals. My mom has been wanting me to get a high-paying job and now I'm stuck with that mentality, even though I know it's bad. I want to do what makes me happy, but because of my mom over the years, the question "Does it pay well? Will I be rich?" always pops up in my mind. I told her I wanted to be an artist when I was little (I love art), but she said they don't get paid well. Killed my dream crying .......sad now.....oh crap I'm ranting. So sorry.



Ack, I'm sorry I missed your reply! redface My apologies.

I'm going in to social work, working on my bachelor's again after the last university I was at screwed me out of the second pre-requisite I needed before I could enter the BSW (bachelor of social work) program through distance-education.

It'll probably be another 2 - 2.5 years before I'm done. Including the years I've had off, it's been 5 years since I graduated high school, and I'll have been in post-secondary school on and off for something like 7 or 8 years by the time I'm done. sweatdrop But at least I'll be done, and I'll have the option of getting my Masters if I choose to go that route (another 1 - 2 years of study after my Bachelor's).

Regarding the issue of weight, I was fat from my early teens up until about grade 10 or 11, until I one day realized how overweight I was and how gross I felt, and I decided to lose weight on my own. Through sheer portion control, nothing else, I lost about 30 pounds over 1 - 2 years. Now I have a smaller stomach, which I love (though I still have a bit of a gut, which I will eventually get up the motivation to lose).

The tangent I'm trying to get to with weight is that I can remember quite clearly having dinner with my family around the kitchen table one night, and somehow the topic of my weight came up and my mom was asking about me losing weight, etc etc. I asked, choked, "So you're saying I'm fat?!" And she's like "No I'm not saying that..." but of course that's exactly what she was implying. Yet she and my dad were the ones that bought large amounts of fatty foods like Pizza Pops and other junk, and then when I gained weight it was my fault. rolleyes Yeah I know I was supposed to have portion control too, but I think parents also play an important role in their kids' eating habits.

As for art, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be an artist! It just depends on what kind of art you want to go to, because different types of art have different options available. You could do traditional art, game design, graphic design, etc etc. Actually my first-ever boyfriend went to a game design school in Vancouver, BC and did a 2 year program, and now he does contract work doing monster creature design or something like that, and I couldn't be prouder of him. 3nodding He's very talented.

If you decide you'd like to go into art, let me know and I'd be happy to try to help you find local options available for art schools, or abroad if you decide to pursue that option elsewhere.

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