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Which are the Dark Arts?

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Neamhain Riona
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:19 pm


Traditional "Dark Arts" include the practice of demonic evocation, the breaking of taboos, necromancy, sexual rites, treasure hunting, berserker combat, shapeshifting, gaining and employing animal familiars, dealings with savage gods, the use of plant intoxicants/entheogens and the casting of curses, etc...

A Dark Magickian may practice any combination of these traditional arts as well as some more modern ones. Hypnosis, Chaos Magick, Neo-Druidism and work with extra-terrestrial (and otherwise alien) intelligences are some of the relatively recent developments which all include their own explorations of the dark and disturbing side of things.

Even such things as traditional and modern creative arts (painting, poetry, music, ceremony, film making, dance, etc...) can, and often do involve the deep and sincere explorations of the broken and refused. The resulting experience is communicated and/or recorded through their preferred modality. Those artists who dare to draw up leviathan with a hook and express that can certainly be considered as practitioners of the Dark Arts.
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:12 pm


I'm confused. I know that there is a fine line between white magic and black magic. I thought the dark arts dealt with a person own selfish gains as well as demon worshipping. Shapeshifting to harm others or for selfish reasons is consider part of the dark arts, but I thought shapeshifting can be practice when it comes to helpping others because sometimes you may need to become the salmon to swim upstream or a bird in the other world to retrieve what is needed to help that person or even yourself.

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Neamhain Riona
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:33 am


I don't know, really. I just found it andp osted. I believe it is up to the person, on how the view it. But then that would be why we have psycho fundies that believe all pagans worship the christain devil.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:14 pm


I think it is all on how a person uses the powers that be.

Personally I do not like the terms white and black, it is either dark or it is not. Black and white sounds sooo storybook.

Underworld Priestess
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Jackabee

Feral Shapeshifter

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:00 am


Where did you get this? I feel that perhaps with only this little bit, my current thoughts might be too harsh.

Right now it smells like fluff that is pandering to the christian conservatives (psycho fundies I believe was mentioned in a comment on this), which is pointless since as long as you aren't a christian, they think you worship the devil (regardless of what you do and don't do).
In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd say that this person is heavily influenced by the Christian concepts of good and evil... if not actually christian themselves.
I feel that their ideas about Art (as in not magic) could lead to them, while being well intentioned, censoring people and ideas.

Also:
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relatively recent developments which all include their own explorations of the dark and disturbing side of things
This very arbitrary view on what makes something "dark" (aka evil) is problematic.
Alas I must go to tutoring, otherwise I might have expanded my opinion.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:41 am


The Dark Arts are basically things that can be used and usually are used to benefit the self only or things that will harm another.

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