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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:13 pm


What would the word "mir" mean? Like the difference between "Mir ist heiss" and "Ich bin heiss". How do you use it?
Sorry, I'm not good at explaining myself sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:20 pm


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What would the word "mir" mean? Like the difference between "Mir ist heiss" and "Ich bin heiss". How do you use it?
Sorry, I'm not good at explaining myself sweatdrop


i'm not sure why they say mir ist heiss either, but i do know what "mir" is.

mir is the dative form of ich. it's kinda hard to explain, because i spent two years studying this in highschool, and i still have a bit of trouble with it, but there are 4 cases in the german language.

nomanitive
der-he
die-she
das-it
die-plural

accusative
den
die
das
die

dative
dem
der
dem
den

genetive
des
der
des
der


reflexive pronouns can be dative as well

I=ich-mich-mir
you=du-dich-dir
he,she,it=er,sie,es-sich-sich
we=wir-uns
you all=ihr-euch
they,you(formal)=sie,Sie-sich-sich

so when something is given or done for you or someone else, we use the dative form. the dative form is also used to show location, whereas the accusative form is used to show motion.

ex: i'll give you the shirt. Ich geb' dir das Hemd. dative
We're in school. Wir sind in der Schule (die Schule turns into der Schule because of the dative case)

but We're going to school takes the accusative case.
Wir fahren nach die Schule. because "die" in the nominative is the same as it is in the accusative, we left it alone.

but if we said The father is running after the thief, Father is in the accusative case, because he's the one that's running and the thief is in the dative case because he's being chased.
Den Vater laeuft nach dem Dieb.

another "mir" example is this:
i'm combing my hair. Ich kaemme mir meine Haare
! because the specific body part is labeled here (hair) the reflexive pronoun takes the dative case. remember, you're combing your hair for yourself is what it really boils down to.

i hope that helped DX

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:04 pm


I have a huge issue with this too. My teacher told be you never say "Ich bin kalt" you say "Mir geht es kalt". Same goes for "Ich bin fantastisch" and "Mir geht's fantastisch" Supposedly they are very different.

I just dont know how neutral
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:58 am


i didn't even know there was a difference. :O maybe it depends on what dialect you speak. i speak the northern dialect.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:15 am


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hehe no no xD


you can tell "thats my book" - das ist mein buch
and you can also tell "this book is mine" or "it's own me" >es gehört mir<

i thinks thats right... another example

you go at your home and tell this a friend:
i go to my home
we say >ich geh zu mir< "i go to me"
it's shorter than "i go at my home"

or what ever...

if you own something an you tell somebody about this you also say "mine" and so, we say "mir" or "mein"

so, i hope it will help
my english is not the best thats the reason because i lead "the german guild" xD haha
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