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Alexandrea Zenne

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:47 am


I just can't get straight lines. Like this picture I did yesterday for Raesha's mini-contest:

User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

The lines are just horrible. I use the little brush thingy in Photoshop that I use for colouring and everything.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 am


I used to use a mouse to draw with before I got my tablet, and getting clean lines with a mouse really is a pain. The first thing I would suggest there is to make your lines thicker to start with. I would do it anyway for this picture because it'd be easier to see them in the darker areas, especially. When you've got all the linework done, use the eraser to make the lines smoother and thinner. OR you could start with thin lines and add to them. There is probably a much easier and less tedious way of doing it, but that's how I drew with a mouse.

SilverTiger


Alexandrea Zenne

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:36 am


SilverTiger
I used to use a mouse to draw with before I got my tablet, and getting clean lines with a mouse really is a pain. The first thing I would suggest there is to make your lines thicker to start with. I would do it anyway for this picture because it'd be easier to see them in the darker areas, especially. When you've got all the linework done, use the eraser to make the lines smoother and thinner. OR you could start with thin lines and add to them. There is probably a much easier and less tedious way of doing it, but that's how I drew with a mouse.
Well, my reason for using lines is to keep the lighter parts defined from the lighter parts, rather than having lines for the sake of a line. It's not a concern whether or not they show up, to me. ^^ I tried doing that technique with other pictures:

http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/thesillykoneko/noraboo_final.jpg

but the look I really want is the small-lined kind of thing. I've never been in the habit of using lines, actually, so I don't want too much of them when using them. But there's nothing to get them right. x_x
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:49 pm


When I coloured with a mouse, I found it easiest to manually draw out the lineart first, with a thin black pen.

So then when you go to do the touch-ups in Photoshop or whatever, it's a LOT easier. And you can get straight to colouring.

Tawney


Alexandrea Zenne

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:32 am


: o

I posted my picture on DA and asked about clean lines, and Mutilating Pixie told me about using the shift key for straight lines. It's cool! Make a dot, press shift, and click where you want it to go. 3nodding heart
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:37 am


If drawing with a mouse never works for you, try drawing pencil on paper first, scan it, and change the levels/brightness/contrast if you need to. That's how I used to do it.

Now I have a tablet. heart

Velderia


kheleksul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:16 pm


Rawr, Adobe Photoshop inking is such a b***h. I find that if you directly draw your lines (and not just straight ones! T____T), it'll come out crooked and funny looking - Not sure if this'll work for you, but when I must lineart in PS, I make the lines by erasing them.

User Image
I select a large setting for the brush (~30px), and bring one side of the large brush against the sketch so it turns out like how I'd like it to turn out as. And then erase the excess as needed.
User Image User Image User Image

Like that. ^__^;;

User Image (thin lines) v. User Image (thick lines)

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And there's a line-tool feature in PS, as well as a "snap to grid" (which works best on the x, y axes. Still works if you rotate the picture, but graggh.)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:23 pm


whee I tried that at first, although I kinda did it lazily. XD I still need to try it again and change the line colour, and I still need to try to use the straight-line-shift key thing before I figure out what to do.

*watercolours instead* XDD

Alexandrea Zenne


television

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:59 am


Failing other suggestions, you could use a vector program such as Flash to do linework in, I've used it for inking before and it's not too bad with a mouse at all. Very different to draw with than other programs though, so you might not like the effect...
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:41 am


television
Failing other suggestions, you could use a vector program such as Flash to do linework in, I've used it for inking before and it's not too bad with a mouse at all. Very different to draw with than other programs though, so you might not like the effect...
I've used Flash for lineart/pictures before, I didn't think of crossing over programs. XD Lemme find some of the stuff I did with that.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/18996431/
and
(more sketchy: )
http://tinypic.com/fxuyyg.png

Alexandrea Zenne


Tawney

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:24 pm


That Flash art is really nice.

Maybe you should just stick to using that program instead?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:07 pm


I dunno. >.>

*tries to remember why she stopped using Flash*

XP *can't remember* XD

Alexandrea Zenne

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