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Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:05 am


Making fanaticism more obsolete

I am quite glad that Osama does not realize all he is saying is counter-productive as it only shows how violent he is and that he will only bring more suffering and war to everyone.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:21 pm


That doesn't seem to matter though.

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James628
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:14 pm


Twizted Humanitarian
Making fanaticism more obsolete

I am quite glad that Osama does not realize all he is saying is counter-productive as it only shows how violent he is and that he will only bring more suffering and war to everyone.
he is still effective enough to recruit thousands with those kinds of lies
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:18 pm


It's not hard to recruit when you victimize your people.

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Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:12 pm


Kaim Arounet
It's not hard to recruit when you victimize your people.


People waking up to a person's true motives and acting to thwart them is not an overnight process. Yes at first not much happens but a bridge crumbles one stone at a time.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:35 pm


Twizted Humanitarian
Kaim Arounet
It's not hard to recruit when you victimize your people.


People waking up to a person's true motives and acting to thwart them is not an overnight process. Yes at first not much happens but a bridge crumbles one stone at a time.

Well he's been working this same angle for ten years and it keeps working...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:09 am


Is it? He has the entire population of muslims who are true to the faith against him, the only people he is managing to recruit are those who are brought up with his teachings in thier heads. I would argue that he's not really as effective as people think he is, Al Qaeda has been rather quiet recently, I realize that could mean he's just flying under the radar for now, but honestly I think that give it another several years and Al Qaeda will become obsolete.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:56 am


AL Qaeda won't be obsolete until Osama is captured and until the schools teach differently. Many countries teach philosophies that aren't to far off from Osama's teachings.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:55 am


Kaim Arounet
AL Qaeda won't be obsolete until Osama is captured and until the schools teach differently. Many countries teach philosophies that aren't to far off from Osama's teachings.


Tell me what has Al Qaeda accomplished since 2001, not much at all just a few bombings. Most muslims know the difference between Islam's teachings and the teachings of Osama.

Osama will probably never be captured in my opinion, personally if I were him I'd be in Africa, terrorism is rampant in Africa and we are not looking for him there. Although even if he is in the middle east we will most likely never find him because there are simply too many places to look.

I fail to believe that Al Qaeda's status is dependant on the capture of Osama Bin Laden. If we do find him then what? Do you think his band of crooks will just give up? They will rescue him from prison or kill themselves trying. The capture of Osama Bin Laden will do absolutely nothing, for even if they couldn't liberate him someone would take his place. Your argument is flawed in saying that nothing will change until his capture.

Also you mentioned other countries schools teaching philosophies not too different from Osama's whether or not that is true I do not know, regardless we are talking about Al Qaeda. States with policies openly hostile to the United States' interests can be changed through official channels.

My determination that Al Qaeda is on its way to being obsolete is made by looking at the last 20 years and noticing the trend starting as of 2001. The drop off of the rate in attacks tells me that one way or another Al Qaeda is becoming obsolete, whether that be from lack of support at home or from preventive actions taken by governments around the world is debatable.

Yes there have been a few sporadic bouts of violence from them, as to be expected but overall thier effectiveness has plummeted.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:01 am


Kaim Arounet
AL Qaeda won't be obsolete until Osama is captured and until the schools teach differently. Many countries teach philosophies that aren't to far off from Osama's teachings.
I agree as long as they are tuaght as children to hate the west then he will continue to recruit, Al-Qaeda itself hasent done as much lately but look at what the Al-qaeda esque groups have been doing in Pakistan, India, somalia, Gaza ect. the best thing that could be done is helping teach the kids at younger ages tolerance and the base of al- qaedas recruites would dwindle

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:59 am


Look at AL Qaeda's history, they don't do a lot really. They support other groups but their biggest things have been both World Trade Center attacks. There was eight years they kept to small scale stuff between 1993 to 2001, so if they follow that pattern they would strike this year. Don't assume that if they haven't done anything recently that they can't.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:38 pm


osama bin laden is in no way an effective leader. he obviously has no clue that threats and acts of insanity doesnt regain any attention from his hostages. and that his relentless and unmerciful torture apon U.S soldiers are not helpful to his cause. his terror threats and minor acts of attack against the nation will in no way, shape, or form change our tactics against iraq or cease our process of sending troops into his so called territory. he played war, so he got war. making the people of his native country suffer is in no way a complement to what he is trying to achieve. if he is trying to achieve at all. two sides of a country couldnt decide on a leader and his pointless terrorism is not going to solve any of this nonsense. he will simply get nothing but political madness.if he even supports any such cause. he is nothing but a man with access to nuclear weopons and numbers to allying embasies. but thats just my opinion. there is no simpathy where osama bin laden is concerned.

MJgwarrocker66


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:05 pm


MJgwarrocker66
osama bin laden is in no way an effective leader.

Actually he's a very effective leader, he leads a good number of people (I don't have the exact figure on hand) and his rhetoric is totally nuts. Yet people believe and follow him because he is a different path and he uses pathos.
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