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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:46 pm
To start off, Intelligent Design and Creationism are not the same thing. I don't want to get into that now. They arn't.
I just wanted to see everyones views and why they believe in what they do.
First off, I believe in Creationism because its just logical.
Why? Well. According to Macro-Evolution, we came from apes, who came from whatever, who came from dinosaurs, who came from amphibians, who came from fish, who came from smaller stuff, who came from smaller stuff, who came from cells, who came from chemical goop, that was formed from volcanoes, which formed when the Earth did, which formed from star-matter, which was formed in the Big-bang or whatever started the universe.
Where did that little point of highly dense matter come from? According to science, nothing cannot come from something, and everything has an end and a beginning. Where did it come from? If it had a beginning, and there was nothing to make it, it could not exist.
God can bend the rules. God made the universe.
Also, the odds that something can evolve into a new species, calcuated by Stephen Hawking, is about 1: 10^100. (10 to the 100th power. Meaning thats a 1 with 101 zeros behind it.) There are only 10^80 in our solar system.
Now, multiply 1:10^100 times the number of species that scientists say that there are, excluding bacteria and viruses. Thats a good... 1:10^20000 odds that it could happen, if not much higher.
To give you a better example, if you had 6.022^23 marshmellows, they would cover all of the United States at 600 miles high.
Another thing. The Earth cannot be more than about 5 million years old. The sun is shrinking at about 6 inches per year, and that number is slowly decreasing.
When you do the math, several million years ago, the Earth would have been inside the sun, or at least too close for any life to exist.
You may say "Well, that shrinking rate isn't constant." True. But consider the size of the sun and the known size patterns of planets. At its current size, what I said above is entirely true.
I've got more, but I forgot what it was.
Micro-evolution is true.
Macro-evolution is not.
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:53 pm
The old Evolution or Creationism question, eh? Well, I'll have to side with the Creationism side of things for this battle. I look at the mountains, sea, rivers, trees, oceans, and think, "How could this come from a huge explosion? Doesn't everything look bad after an explosion, and not this beautiful?" That's my logic on this issue. I also have a tough time with the whole, we came from bacteria the poped outta nowhere. Or the whole, it was all by chance, and if it didn't happen, we would have never been here. I don't think that our being is hanging on that thin a string. I can't find logic in evolution, it's just seems like the scientists made something up when they were asked where the Earth came from, then kept with it for the rest of their lives.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:56 pm
Evolutionism is just too far fetched.
Go back to the "Chicken vs. the egg." The inner conflict is "how did everything get here?" God.
You can't explain how something was created from nothing. Since everything has a beginning, and time does not (just like numbers) , there had to be nothing before there was something. That means, something came from nothing, which, by science, is impossible.
Evolution: Disproven.
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:38 pm
Dude, Im not even gonna get into this =_=
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:38 am
I'm gonna side with you guys on this. YOu can't have evolution without creation. Even if theoretically the big bang theory worked, where did hte stars and planets come from, or the universe, at one point SOMETHING had to be CREATED by SOMEONE. There's no possible way for something just to "appear" without a creation. Recently had to do a case study on this in my biology class, which upset me a bit, but i manages just fine. God didn't need to make all skeletal systems/dna codes and features differently. For evolution, how could a dolphin and human come from the same creature? Also, 98% of our dna is identical to that of a chimpanzee, which is understandable, but again, all dna is made from the four same bases. Another way that evolution falls short is understanding the brain. Scientists just CAN'T figure out how the brain could be as amazing as it was, the human capacity doesnt' even compare to that of a chimps, and it would take 3 million years to fill a brains memory. Thats quite amazing. If evolution was true, why aren't there any chimps running around now losing hair, walking on two legs and talking? It just doesn't make sense.
Renny its ok to share your opinion on this topic, we respect everyone's and its in this subforum for areason anyhow! ^.^
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:03 pm
the more we discover about the world around us, the more we see that it couldn't be accidental. evolution began as an accident, unless i'm mistaken, one thing just happened to react with another and they had anomalies (sp?), and evolved into the plethora of beings we have on Earth. i lol at that theory.
there are so many geometric patterns and unusual creatures specified for their own places, everything depends on everything else, it just proves intelligent design. it is not logical for all of this just to have happened. some other being had to have aided it. He spoke into nothing and created the heavens, the earth, the creatures of the land, sea, and air. He is to honor for existence, not a scientific anomaly.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:45 pm
... So if i was, for the sake of argument, randomly side with evolution. what would happen? razz
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:31 pm
Do you intend, then, to play devil's advocate?
I feel I must change my answer, because 3 years ago I did not know what I know now. Evolution follows after Creation. It is possible, though impossible to prove with today's science, that Jehovah created animals in the Garden of Eden that later evolved into the modern animals we can see today.
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