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 Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:52 am
bump_whitey2 i just wish BET had more variety in its shows BET and MTV are basically the same damn channel - every show on BET has an equivalent on MTV, to the point where i swear it's the same people running it. and wouldn't you know it? they are run by the same people - Viacom. BET has been de-integrated from MTV Networks, but they're still owned and run by the same folks.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:19 pm
Kaenai bump_whitey2 i just wish BET had more variety in its shows BET and MTV are basically the same damn channel - every show on BET has an equivalent on MTV, to the point where i swear it's the same people running it. and wouldn't you know it? they are run by the same people - Viacom. BET has been de-integrated from MTV Networks, but they're still owned and run by the same folks. [That's very interesting. 3nodding But that's to be expected. BET's programmers, (or whomever is in charge of shows), don't want to seem second rate. They want to give black folks everything that's on MTV. It might be on purpose, but MTV seems to be geared toward kids 13-20 primarily. And BET seems to have programs for a broader age range; after all, MTV has plenty of other competition trying to get the attention of it's target audience, whereas BET has little competition when it comes to "Black Entertainment."]
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:14 pm
Passion_Dragon Kaenai bump_whitey2 i just wish BET had more variety in its shows BET and MTV are basically the same damn channel - every show on BET has an equivalent on MTV, to the point where i swear it's the same people running it. and wouldn't you know it? they are run by the same people - Viacom. BET has been de-integrated from MTV Networks, but they're still owned and run by the same folks. [That's very interesting. 3nodding But that's to be expected. BET's programmers, (or whomever is in charge of shows), don't want to seem second rate. They want to give black folks everything that's on MTV. It might be on purpose, but MTV seems to be geared toward kids 13-20 primarily. And BET seems to have programs for a broader age range; after all, MTV has plenty of other competition trying to get the attention of it's target audience, whereas BET has little competition when it comes to "Black Entertainment."]
i agree, but i also disagree. i think if they just wanted to avoid being considered 'second rate', they would just come up with something original, instead of mirroring other channels. but i do agree that there aren't many (if any) channels that can compete for Black viewers with BET.
there is a new channel on the horizon, which i plan to avoid if at all possible. okay, i might check it out for a week or so to see what they put out there. it's supposed to be aimed at young Black men (ages 18-30), so i am expecting to see more half-naked women shaking more body parts than usual (if that's even possible eek ), but who knows - they might have something interesting.
if i remember the name, and you don't know it, i'll either post it or PM you.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:42 pm
Kaenai Passion_Dragon Kaenai bump_whitey2 i just wish BET had more variety in its shows BET and MTV are basically the same damn channel - every show on BET has an equivalent on MTV, to the point where i swear it's the same people running it. and wouldn't you know it? they are run by the same people - Viacom. BET has been de-integrated from MTV Networks, but they're still owned and run by the same folks. [That's very interesting. 3nodding But that's to be expected. BET's programmers, (or whomever is in charge of shows), don't want to seem second rate. They want to give black folks everything that's on MTV. It might be on purpose, but MTV seems to be geared toward kids 13-20 primarily. And BET seems to have programs for a broader age range; after all, MTV has plenty of other competition trying to get the attention of it's target audience, whereas BET has little competition when it comes to "Black Entertainment."]
i agree, but i also disagree. i think if they just wanted to avoid being considered 'second rate', they would just come up with something original, instead of mirroring other channels. but i do agree that there aren't many (if any) channels that can compete for Black viewers with BET.
there is a new channel on the horizon, which i plan to avoid if at all possible. okay, i might check it out for a week or so to see what they put out there. it's supposed to be aimed at young Black men (ages 18-30), so i am expecting to see more half-naked women shaking more body parts than usual (if that's even possible eek ), but who knows - they might have something interesting.
if i remember the name, and you don't know it, i'll either post it or PM you.
[Please post it here; I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't know about it. xp I don't think we need a channel devoted to Black men exclusively; I'm just now getting into Spike TV (mmm...UFC...men who are hot like wrestlers, yet no where near as fake). Have you seen BET Uncut?? gonk ]
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:49 pm
Passion_Dragon [Please post it here; I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't know about it. xp I don't think we need a channel devoted to Black men exclusively; I'm just now getting into Spike TV (mmm...UFC...men who are hot like wrestlers, yet no where near as fake). Have you seen BET Uncut?? gonk ]
i am actually afraid of it. i tried to watch it once, just so i would know what it was about, and i wanted to throw up... stressed
now, i know that there's going to be an On Demand channel backed by Russell Simmons, so i hope that one will have some class..
i'll keep checking for the other one.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:05 pm
found one that i'd forgotten about. it's nationwide, but not on every cable network. it's one of those 'ask your local service provider' channels.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:11 pm
Kaenai Passion_Dragon [Please post it here; I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't know about it. xp I don't think we need a channel devoted to Black men exclusively; I'm just now getting into Spike TV (mmm...UFC...men who are hot like wrestlers, yet no where near as fake). Have you seen BET Uncut?? gonk ]
i am actually afraid of it. i tried to watch it once, just so i would know what it was about, and i wanted to throw up... stressed
now, i know that there's going to be an On Demand channel backed by Russell Simmons, so i hope that one will have some class..
i'll keep checking for the other one.[Hmmm..I dunno. I also hope he'd have some class...but it's Hip Hop. Having class might mean that he goes against the grain of some HipHop and thereby disappoints some fans. neutral .]
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:14 pm
Passion_Dragon Kaenai Passion_Dragon [Please post it here; I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't know about it. xp I don't think we need a channel devoted to Black men exclusively; I'm just now getting into Spike TV (mmm...UFC...men who are hot like wrestlers, yet no where near as fake). Have you seen BET Uncut?? gonk ]
i am actually afraid of it. i tried to watch it once, just so i would know what it was about, and i wanted to throw up... stressed
now, i know that there's going to be an On Demand channel backed by Russell Simmons, so i hope that one will have some class..
i'll keep checking for the other one.[Hmmm..I dunno. I also hope he'd have some class...but it's Hip Hop. Having class might mean that he goes against the grain of some HipHop and thereby disappoints some fans. neutral .]
i guess all we can really do is cross our fingers and hope for the best. i'm hoping he'll 'know better', since he was there with his brother when Hip Hop started, and so far, both of them have stayed true to what it was about (even Run's new album is tighter than some out there right now, and he's sooo old school)...
*braces self for impact*
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:17 pm
Kaenai found one that i'd forgotten about. it's nationwide, but not on every cable network. it's one of those 'ask your local service provider' channels. [Ah, I knew about this one; we have Comcast. 3nodding It's TV One, like Radio One, the black-owned radio station thingy (I think sweatdrop ). I haven't had much time to watch TV One, but now that I look at what shows they are supposed to have, it seems interesting. wink ]
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:19 pm
Passion_Dragon Kaenai found one that i'd forgotten about. it's nationwide, but not on every cable network. it's one of those 'ask your local service provider' channels. [Ah, I knew about this one; we have Comcast. 3nodding It's TV One, like Radio One, the black-owned radio station thingy (I think sweatdrop ). I haven't had much time to watch TV One, but now that I look at what shows they are supposed to have, it seems interesting. wink ] really? we've got Comcast here... actually, i have DirecTV, but i think we get TVOne... i've never actually watched it, but i think i'll give it a look after reading about it a second time.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:06 pm
bump_whitey2 it's not saying that but alot of the programming is geared toward white teens i mean it's better than it used to be but how many black people do you know that watch viva la bam I don't see MTV as a white bet. Infact, MTV seems like it is mostly over run by rap. And some of it is emo and punk rock crap, but mostly rap. I'd say it's geared towards whites and blacks about half half.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:19 am
Mesatsu_Gouki bump_whitey2 it's not saying that but alot of the programming is geared toward white teens i mean it's better than it used to be but how many black people do you know that watch viva la bam I don't see MTV as a white bet. Infact, MTV seems like it is mostly over run by rap. And some of it is emo and punk rock crap, but mostly rap. I'd say it's geared towards whites and blacks about half half. you're right about the programming, except that MTV is geared toward whatever's popular. i don't even think (sometimes) they're thinking about the demographic as much as they are the $$$ they get from the demographic.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:52 pm
Kaenai Mesatsu_Gouki bump_whitey2 it's not saying that but alot of the programming is geared toward white teens i mean it's better than it used to be but how many black people do you know that watch viva la bam I don't see MTV as a white bet. Infact, MTV seems like it is mostly over run by rap. And some of it is emo and punk rock crap, but mostly rap. I'd say it's geared towards whites and blacks about half half. you're right about the programming, except that MTV is geared toward whatever's popular. i don't even think (sometimes) they're thinking about the demographic as much as they are the $$$ they get from the demographic. [True. 3nodding ]
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