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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:44 pm

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I've been feeling really disillusioned with melodeath as a genre lately. With some notable exceptions, most bands seem content to just beat the At the Gates/Arch Enemy/Children of Bodom horse further into the dirt. Seriously, just look.

The Duskfall
Satariel
Fear My Thoughts
Archeon
Naildown
Enforsaken
Anterior
Imperanon
Tracedawn
Cipher System
Raintime
Lost Eden
Blood Stain Child
The Absence
myGrain
Blinded Colony
Solerrain
Before the Dawn
Pain Confessor
Diablo

Is a little creativity a little too much to ask for? neutral

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:15 pm

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Power Metal, not Melodeath. talk2hand

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:29 pm

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Power Metal, not Melodeath. talk2hand

I recognize this. razz But you'd have to be deaf to not comprehend the influence they've had on the modern melodeath scene.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 7:58 pm

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Children of Bodom

Power Metal, not Melodeath. talk2hand

I recognize this. razz But you'd have to be deaf to not comprehend the influence they've had on the modern melodeath scene.

I must really be deaf then. neutral

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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:25 pm

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Power Metal, not Melodeath. talk2hand

I recognize this. razz But you'd have to be deaf to not comprehend the influence they've had on the modern melodeath scene.

I must really be deaf then. neutral

See: Kalmah, Imperanon, Skyfire, Wintersun, Archeon...did you even look at any of the samples I provided?

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:45 pm

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ashlander_alpha

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Power Metal, not Melodeath. talk2hand

I recognize this. razz But you'd have to be deaf to not comprehend the influence they've had on the modern melodeath scene.

I must really be deaf then. neutral

See: Kalmah, Imperanon, Skyfire, Wintersun, Archeon...did you even look at any of the samples I provided?

Kalmah and Skyfire were formed before CoB. neutral I can possibly see Wintersun and Archeon being influenced by them but not the others.

and no, I didn't click the samples. I've already heard at least half of them, and melodeath isn't really my favorite of a subgenre. Melodic Death is more my thing, rather than melodeath.

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:17 pm

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Kalmah and Skyfire were formed before CoB. neutral I can possibly see Wintersun and Archeon being influenced by them but not the others.

and no, I didn't click the samples. I've already heard at least half of them, and melodeath isn't really my favorite of a subgenre. Melodic Death is more my thing, rather than melodeath.

As Ancestor, Kalmah put out nothing but demo tapes, which I don't put a lot of stock in. While the same is true of CoB as Inearthed, they had two LPs out before Kalmah had even made a demo. Same goes for Skyfire--nothing but demos until 2001. And if you count from the formation of Inearthed (1993), CoB HAS been around longer. razz

I wasn't aware you made a distinction. As I understand it, "melodeath" is just a shortened word for melodic death... confused

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:46 pm

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Kalmah and Skyfire were formed before CoB. neutral I can possibly see Wintersun and Archeon being influenced by them but not the others.

and no, I didn't click the samples. I've already heard at least half of them, and melodeath isn't really my favorite of a subgenre. Melodic Death is more my thing, rather than melodeath.

As Ancestor, Kalmah put out nothing but demo tapes, which I don't put a lot of stock in. While the same is true of CoB as Inearthed, they had two LPs out before Kalmah had even made a demo. Same goes for Skyfire--nothing but demos until 2001. And if you count from the formation of Inearthed (1993), CoB HAS been around longer. razz

I wasn't aware you made a distinction. As I understand it, "melodeath" is just a shortened word for melodic death... confused

Yeah but CoB weren't really all that famous or talked about or even possibly seen as a possible influence until at least their Hatebreeder album.

Melodeath is stuff like Dark Tranquility, In Flames, Kalmah, etc. You know, the sound which can be often described as Gothenburg.
Melodic Death is stuff like Hypocrisy, Amon Amarth, Incapacity, At the Gates, etc. Its basically Death Metal with a noticable melody.

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:22 pm

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Yeah but CoB weren't really all that famous or talked about or even possibly seen as a possible influence until at least their Hatebreeder album.

Melodeath is stuff like Dark Tranquility, In Flames, Kalmah, etc. You know, the sound which can be often described as Gothenburg.
Melodic Death is stuff like Hypocrisy, Amon Amarth, Incapacity, At the Gates, etc. Its basically Death Metal with a noticable melody.

...which was released in 1999 along with the "Tokyo Warhearts" live LP. And while I agree that they weren't the internationally famed band they are now, I'd speculate that they'd caused a pretty big stir in their home country of Finland.

You'll have to forgive me if I don't adopt your system. Melodic death can be more melodic (say, In Flames) or more death (Carcass), but it all falls under the same umbrella as far as I'm concerned. Certainly, a band can take the melody so far as to stray outside the death metal ballpark, like Mercenary, but just because there are different shades of melodeath doesn't justify further, even more apocryphal subdivisions. This, however, is a matter of opinion.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:20 pm

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Yeah but CoB weren't really all that famous or talked about or even possibly seen as a possible influence until at least their Hatebreeder album.

Melodeath is stuff like Dark Tranquility, In Flames, Kalmah, etc. You know, the sound which can be often described as Gothenburg.
Melodic Death is stuff like Hypocrisy, Amon Amarth, Incapacity, At the Gates, etc. Its basically Death Metal with a noticable melody.

...which was released in 1999 along with the "Tokyo Warhearts" live LP. And while I agree that they weren't the internationally famed band they are now, I'd speculate that they'd caused a pretty big stir in their home country of Finland.

You'll have to forgive me if I don't adopt your system. Melodic death can be more melodic (say, In Flames) or more death (Carcass), but it all falls under the same umbrella as far as I'm concerned. Certainly, a band can take the melody so far as to stray outside the death metal ballpark, like Mercenary, but just because there are different shades of melodeath doesn't justify further, even more apocryphal subdivisions. This, however, is a matter of opinion.

Possibly, however I doubt it.

I don't know. I'm too a**l about it, but some people in the Metal Forum are. I can see what they mean though theres a huge difference from the Gothenburg sound and pretty much every other death metal band, ever.

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