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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:12 pm
Why is it that all of a sudden there is a abundance of Harry Potter/Twilight cross overs in fan-fiction that have Edward and Harry as a couple. neutral To me this is weird. I mean JK never real developed the vampires in her books but I get the impression they never really sparkled and the 'werewolves' seemed to be very different to me, so I don't understand where all this is coming from. I realize people loved both series, and while I didn't enjoy Twilight nearly as much as HP, I did give it a shot. I've just read to many vampire/mortal books. Every turn of the page I was reading something that was hitting remarkably close to something else I had already read and it just wasn't as fun for me when you can predict the turn of events. As for Edward and Harry... neither showed any gays tendencies to me, both had sol female love interests so I'm not getting it.
As well I understand that people are just flexing their imaginations but if you want to go flying wildly off cannon and character personalities (Example is Draco just starting off as Harry's best friend in a till that point cannon moment. There has to be some build to the change if you do this.) then just change the characters to original characters of your own and you'll have your own book instead of just a fan-fiction and then you can really swing the creative battle axe.
This is just me and I was wondering what everyone thinks of this new kind of cross-over between these two series.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:05 pm
 I hate the fanfictions where the characters are completely different than how they are in the original settings. I just wanna say that first. Now then, I'm not a slash fan per say. I mean, I don't hate it, but I don't write it or read it as a hobby. Still, slashing Harry and Edward is weird to me. I don't like it. And of course they never showed gay tendencies, because originally they weren't gay. In a slash fic, the author generally has to start straight from scratch with the sexuality, because no one ever seems to slash characters that are already gay. Crossovers are only ok if you give them an actual connection. Set up in the story so that there is a reason for it. However, most people don't bother to do this. They prefer to just write as if they were already together and it all makes perfect sense when it doesn't.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:31 pm
I hate cross-overs period. I mean if you can make it work then great but most can't. In order to make it work you need to really come up with a scenario where these two completely different series would somehow meet. AND I really hate fanfics where the characters don't act like themselves. I mean you write a fanfic to include the characters you liked. You liked them because of the way they were so why go and change all that. I usually don't read slash fanfics. I don't have anything against them but I don't like when the characters are out of character. I mean really, Harry/Edward just doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:53 am
Sorry, but there are a LOT of weird fanfiction authors out there. I personally wouldn't take the time to sit and write out something I didn't think could possibly happen however much you messed with your version of the characters, but apparently other people would and do. I mean, Hagrid/Dobby? Lucius/Harry? Lupin/Voldemort? How much more impossible can we get without switching up series?
I personally would like to see a good Dumbledore/Lockhart fic, but no one seems to really want to even think about that one. ^_^ Semi-canon though it may be.
Now, the Twilight/HP crossovers really should stop. But, knowing what they can do with just one series to mess up the characters, it won't. Plus on Harry/Edward, does anyone really think the characters would do any of that voluntarily? Even ignoring the ties to the respective girls that would not be broken, Edward can read thoughts. I honestly wouldn't want to submit Edward to the torture of Harry's thoughts, especially an AllCaps!Harry.
I like canon stuff. Or stuff that is at least plausible with the canon. Sure, in my own writing, I mess with as many characters heads as I can, but I do it in a way that makes sense. And actually makes it more canon. (I get compliments on how canon my stories are) And other people like that canon stuff too.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:24 pm
I don't understand the Twilight/HP crossovers...the characters aren't even related at all...now I guess I could see a Lupin/Jacob fic, since they're both werewolves, but no Edward/Harry. I mean, Edward's a 100 year old vampire stuck at 17, and Harry's just a regular wizard that happens to be famous. See a connection there? Well, I don't.
I like some of the weirder pairings...I've seen Snape/Lupin fics (I'm a slash fan as well as some others), Percy/the twins, ya know, stuff like that. But I've also seen Dumbledore/Hagrid...I don't even know if it's there anymore...
But I'm not sure of crossovers...I've seen HP crossed over with Wizards of Waverly Place before. I think people think it'll work just because there's witchcraft and supernatural stuff in both of the series' that they're crossing over. But that's not always the case.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:15 am
0_0 W.o.w. I haven't heard of that crossover before. Harry and Edward...wow. That has got to be the worst pairing I've ever heard of. EVER. Yeah, I hate crossovers in general, but that takes the cake.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:02 pm
 I both hate and love crossovers. For the most part, I completely and utterly hate them because, like everyone has said, they very rarely are well written enough to make sense. But, very rarely, I find one that I like because it is so well done. Those of you that were here when the monthly fanfic contests were running, do you remember the month we did crossovers? The Room with the Computer was a Harry Potter/X-Men crossover, something that shouldn't have worked in a million years, but it was amazing. I love that fic. And I admit I did write a Twilight/Harry Potter crossover, and I tried to handle it well, but it could have been much better. If I'd had more time, it would have been. I write crossovers on occasion to challenge myself. It's hard to make these things make sense.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:13 pm
I read Twilight and I hated it. The characters were shallow and under-developed. Plus, I just don't like romance novels in general. When a character is obsessed over his/her lover and doesn't care about their friends/family/career/hobbies I can't respect them. It's pathetic; not romantic.
For example, I love Severus, and I do think his feelings for Lily are romantic. HOWEVER, I bet if the HP series was told from his point of view, I'd dislike it...Unless, of course, his inevitable sarcastic mental comments were enough to entertain me. xd
I detest crossover between these two series and I can't stand comparing the two series. Twilight isn't even close to being in the same league as Harry Potter; the writing quality isn't half as good. Besides, the plots are not even remotely similar. The issue between Harry and Voldemort isn't anything like the love triangle between Bella, Edward, and Jacob.
Some crossovers can be good. Not All Who Maraud Are Lost was between HP and Lord of the Rings, and it was good...even though I read it years ago and barely remember anything about it. sweatdrop Also, I wrote a Young Wizards and Harry Potter crossover, so I'd be a hypocrite if I insulted ALL crossovers. wink
I do agree that both Edward and Harry strike me as completely heterosexual and that slashing them is odd.
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Minerva the Bookwyrm Crew
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:33 pm
 I mostly like Twilight because it's so utterly ridiculous. I can see everything that is wrong with the series, I know that it's silly, and Bella's obsession with Edward totally creeps me out. But for some reason that I can't fathom, I enjoy reading it. Although I have to disagree about the character bit, Min. In Twilight so much of the story was built around Bella and Edward that nothing was really done about the others, but you do get their stories and development if you read the rest of the series. Twilight really is the worst of the books. Breaking Dawn was just ridiculous, but it was fairly well written. And I just went to the fanfiction sub and read both The Room with the Computer and my fanfic from July's contest... I love TRwtC, and I found myself liking mine more than I did when I thought about it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:43 pm
I haven't read any Twilight/HP crossovers yet. I like crossovers but I don't like the idea of Harry/Edward they just don't seem like a good couple.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:17 pm
 It's not, even if you like yaoi and slash fics and all that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:59 am
Mia, when I say "under-developed" I don't mean that we don't know enough about them. My sister likes the series, so she's told me that we find out everyone's backstory in later novels. I consider Edward an "under-developed" character because he's too perfect; there aren't layers to his personality. I LOVED when Rowling revealed the shady past of Dumbledore in DH because it made him so much more real and interesting.
Agreed. 3nodding I am a slash fan (I heart Remus/Sirius and Al/Scorpius!) but Harry/Edward? No. Just no.
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Minerva the Bookwyrm Crew
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:18 pm
 Edward and Bella are both very flat, I agree. The others aren't after the the first book. My reason behind mentioning that the characters gave their stories in other books is because that is part of the process of adding layers. You have to know why people feel the way they feel. The most complex character is Rosalie, she doesn't want to be a vampire, but made Carlisle turn Emmett. And Edward gets layers when you read Midnight Sun on S Meyer's site. The only character that stays flat is Bella. And Edward/Harry is gross.
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