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glitterboypilot

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:34 pm


I was just thinking about the guns, but I am in ether way. I am away from my home computer right now, but I will get my character up by monday at the latest.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:11 am


wth? why can't we friggin roll? I hate arrays the only array I liked was the 4e standard >.> because you never get anything less than a 10. you are making me dislike the game less and less already

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Xboxplayerj

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:21 pm


I don't want to play, but I just have an idea that may be a compromise for both sides.

Why not use the point buy system?

If you aren't familiar with it.

All stats start at 8 and you pay points to increase the stats. The points needed to by a stat is based off of the modifier for the current stat(minimal of 1 point per stat)

8-14 1 point
15-16 2 points
17-18 3 points
Max is 18

The points are given to you by the dm, by saying # point buy. It is an idea inside the DMG.

Using the point buy system the array would only be a challenging (22 points to spend how ever the player wishes.)

But there is
Low powered= 15 points
Challenging= 22 points
Normal= 25
Tougher= 28
High power= 32
And my favorite is Epic= 36

It would be a good Idea for the Dm to think what he is placing the group against before choosing the number of points used.

Or the everyone rolls on site.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:35 am


Go with 20 points. Each ability point costs 1 point.
How is that? It isn't too powerful (total bonus will be +4), but the characters aren't going up against powerful things at first.

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Eye of Grummsh

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:17 am


not a fan of point buy either
I prefer roll 4d6 drop lowest reroll 1s one time per skill
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:42 am


also you are reducing the max total given by wizards in half

Eye of Grummsh


Eye of Grummsh

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:07 pm


ah hell with it I'll give point buy a shot but you are making me like this less and less especially since it is making us severely underpowered stat wise for longer periods of time. 1/4 experience then normal plus a max +4 stat bonus. though the plus 1 to skill a level ealier and feats every level might make up for it.

so I also take it we don't get the extra feat and skill points if we swap out for the races stereotype?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:58 pm


Eye of Grummsh
ah hell with it I'll give point buy a shot but you are making me like this less and less especially since it is making us severely underpowered stat wise for longer periods of time. 1/4 experience then normal plus a max +4 stat bonus. though the plus 1 to skill a level ealier and feats every level might make up for it.

I think they will make up for it. 3.5 is very accurate at detailing what actually can be done by people of a given ability, and I do not want people to be too far above normal. At the same time, I want levels to mean an increase in ability beyond what they currently do.

But to say that it is making you underpowered is to miss the point: This isn't traditional D&D, this is an end of the world scenario using D&D rules.
Well, that, and you won't be up against challenges that would require you to have a total of +8 modifier to have a chance.

Eye of Grummsh

so I also take it we don't get the extra feat and skill points if we swap out for the races stereotype?

Yeah. Instead, you get the low-light vision, or trap sense or whatever the race gives you.
Eye of Grummsh
also you are reducing the max total given by wizards in half
Max total for what?


Also, would you be able to see if anyone you know would be interested in this game? It would be best with around 5 PCs. Unfortunately, I don't know to many Gaians into D&D.

Le Pere Duchesne

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Eye of Grummsh

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:46 am


+8 bonus down to +4 is what I meant but you already rresponded to that
and no everyone I know who like D&D are on this guild but it has gotten rather inactive
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:41 pm


I know I'm kinda' late to this, but I love the idea. I can understand the "no guns at first" thing because, depending on the type of apocalypse that occurred, guns might've been all but wiped out by nuclear fire or whatever, save for the few still stored in underground military installations. I've run a game similar to this, but the point wasn't for the PC's to create a pseudo-established society, it was to survive. (Damn those bike raiders!) Anyway, the campaign ended with the PC's finding a time machine and going back to before the apocalypse occurred. After they saw the horrible society the world was made of, they went back to their time and resided happily in the subterranean bunker left behind from the war.
It was great.
But back to this.
If you're still willing to run it, hell, even if you aren't, I'd certainly love to play, or GM. Whatever suits you.
And as for an only-Human campaign, you can use a different system. Like, for example, the well-rounded Human is the one everyone uses in standard D&D, then there's the stalky, which will have a higher toughness generally. Obese characters will have a lower Dex, but a higher Con. Things like that.
I forgot where that table was, but I had it in some book in my room.

Also, here's a base character race/stats I'd like to use:
Human Alchemist
Str - 8 Dex - 12
Con - 13 Int - 15
Wis - 11 Cha - 10
The stats are based on your original set-value points.
Well, it depends on whether the Alchemist is Int-based or Wis-based. But I'm pretty sure that Alchemy would be something based on Int. A higher-than-average Dex is for AC and being able to throw the alchemical ingredients he makes, then Con for the HP, which would be necessary for a guy that has no Str and should be out of the battle.
His Cha's 10 because he talks, but he's a bit of a quirky character and tries to keep to himself otherwise. Wis is 11 just 'cause. Will Saves can be handy at some point later.
With the +4 Sp at the beginning and +1 SP at each level (along with the feat every level, no doubt), he'll be pretty much focused on staying out of trouble, then popping in occassionally for the toss of an Acid Splash or something.
xD

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