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LordNeuf
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:58 am


So what do you want me to put in the title?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:12 am


Well, what do you think would be adequate warning?

WARNING: Disturbing Content.
WARNING: Thread contains highly upsetting, emotional material.
WARNING: Adult content, and not the fun kind.

Use your best judgment.

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LordNeuf
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:39 am


alrighty... now that the horse has left, lets close the barn doors.

And now back to the topic....

Anyone else want to add on this discussion and what defines intolerance and what is socially acceptable?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:19 pm


Intolerance is when a person decides go against something simply due to prejudice, which is caused by fear, ignorance, etc., without attempting to think about another opinion.
An Example: I am intolerant to Twilight. This is due to ignorance, as I have never read the book and slept through the film.

Socially acceptable is what the People (if such an entity exists. It would be better to say "a majority") decide they can tolerate happily (the key factors being decorum, fear, etc.). This is usually backed up by the Law.

Think of your own example for the second one, I've got nothing.

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LordNeuf
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:59 pm


Should majority rule determine what is socially acceptable?

Does the culture of 10,000 outvote the society of 100?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:35 am


"tyranny of the majority"....I think, with as often as groups, this one in particular, have been voted out of their civil rights, we should really be concerned about letting a vote decide morality.
The majority hasn't been a good judge of right and wrong in the past, or, as we just read, the present.


I really think that people should be allowed to do whatever makes them happy, provided it doesn't cause pain *emotional, physical, etc* or property loss/damage to another living being. *Feels sure I'm leaving out something, but you get the gist?*

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:37 pm


How about worshipping an idol/another god when you claim you're Jewish? I don't think you should be allowed to call yourself Jewish in that case. So we should add religious/moral values to the list, as well.

Which brings us back onto the subject. I told an Irish Catholic teacher, and she was disgusted by the Catholic Church's behaviour. Does this say something about the way the leaders of Catholicism react to these morally imbalanced/contraversial situations?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:23 pm


Divash
I will always be aware that a majority of the women around me, and an impressive minority of men,

Oh, Divash, I respect your knowledge and all the hard work you did, but I fear your information is a little outmoded. Approximately half the population has been sexually assaulted in some manner before the age of eighteen. In other words, if you're in a room full of eighteen year old boys, about half of them will be molestation victims. If you're in a room full of eighteen year old girls, ditto. The numbers will vary slightly, of course, because that's the nature of actuarial science.

A huge part of the problem is that in many societies men, more so than women, will be expected to keep their victimization a secret. If a five-year-old boy is molested by his babysitter/teacher/aged relation, he may not tell about it until he's middle aged, or he might take it to the grave. Women can also have social stigmas put on their traumas, but it's not usually quite as stifling as those placed upon men. This is especially true in post-1970 America.

Another problem is that when men are ready to come out about their experiences, there aren't a whole lot of resources out there for them. My mother runs what wasn't too long ago the only online support group for victims of rape and incest that will even take men. Men may be a minority of the victims, but not as impressively small a minority as a chillingly silent one.

Still another problem is that heterosexual stat rape against young boys is often called "initiation". Remember the case of the teacher and student recently~? I fear society will re traumatize that boy more and more just because his perpetrator was conventionally pretty.

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