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 Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:34 am
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:02 pm
Thats a problem of corruption, not one of privatization.
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:26 am
It also has to do with the fact that they were accepting government money to lock up these kids on a per kid basis. If this had been an alternative-to-juvie thing, where the fee was paid by the parents, I doubt this would have occurred. Plus, Humanitarian is right. This was corruption on the judges part. While the camps are partly to blame for making the bribes, the judges should never have accepted them. Also, they should have insisted that the kids have lawyers, so that the sentencing would be fair. To blame privatization is to say that things like this never occur in state run facilities, an assumtion I find highly unlikely.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:53 pm
this deal was a huge temptation. I know that the judges were wrong. But this sort of semi-private corrections is just creating these temptations. Plus, it doesn't sound like the efficiency is any better than a public system.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:51 am
You're assuming that all privatized correction facilities act this way. I frankly find that hard to believe. Thats like saying everyone who makes peanut butter is going to sell tainted food just because one company did. Yes, this camp did act unethically, and the judges were complicite in that regard, but to say this is a problem of privatization is unsupported by the facts at hand. I'm sure this is not the only private corrections facility in the nation, and I haven't heard any reports of other camps doing this sort of thing. This is more than likely an isolated case. Besides, public facilities have a real problem with overcrowding, so this may be a cheaper alternative than building and maintaining scores of new prisons at taxpayer expense.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:56 am
you say that the facts do not prove that this is a problem of privatization but it is a fact that this could not have possibly happened with a state run juvenile detention center. Therefore the problem is in the for profit nature of this semi-private system.
I keep hearing that the profit motive will inspire efficiency in our essential services but it seems only to inspire corruption. Correctional facilities are not cars or computers. The public does not get to shop around and compare deals and features. Competition does not happen as once a corporation wins a gvt contract to provide a service they don't have to compete again for years.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:15 am
You are only looking at the isolated cases in which corruption do occur my friend. How often do we hear a corruption story maybe once a month, that means that the system runs as its supposed to for about 29 days or so out of 30. I only wish NASA had that kind of success rate.
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