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 Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:12 pm
ashlander_alpha MegaTherion777 ashlander_alpha MegaTherion777 i challenge you to name one good swedish BM band - either 2nd or 3rd wave. dark funeral is worse than marduk. naglfar is listenable, but not good black metal. diabolical masquerade sounds like dimmu borgir meets incipit satan (while i like gorgoroth, this album is absolute crap). ancient wisdom needs to get rid of the keyboards - it ruins the atmosphere. with both of the previous two bands, they put too much emphasis on melodies to be good black metal - the atmosphere disappears. vinterland (at least in their earlier stuff) is the only band that managed to incorporate thier keyboards into the general atmosphere in a good manner. just enough melody to be "melodic" but not enough to detract from the raw atmosphere. however, their later stuff seems to depart from this, which is unfortunate. so now we have two good swedish black metal bands, bathory and vinterland
Regarding Dark Funeral: Yeah, I know they're lacking in originality and are rather heavy on the melody, but at least they're listenable.no, not true. as i said, vintersorg does it properly. the problem with any melodic BM band, keys or not, is that the melody detracts from the raw, dark atmosphere. vintersorg found a good balance between melody and rawness. the other bands didn't, and my opinion of them would be the same whether they use keys or not. notice how i said naglfar and dark funeral weren't good BM either, and they don't use keys
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:46 pm
MegaTherion777 no, not true. as i said, vintersorg does it properly. the problem with any melodic BM band, keys or not, is that the melody detracts from the raw, dark atmosphere. vintersorg found a good balance between melody and rawness. the other bands didn't, and my opinion of them would be the same whether they use keys or not. notice how i said naglfar and dark funeral weren't good BM either, and they don't use keys MegaTherion777 swedish black metal. more melodic than some bands, but still a really good BM band. i get to see them live with dark funeral next month!
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:28 pm
ashlander_alpha MegaTherion777 no, not true. as i said, vintersorg does it properly. the problem with any melodic BM band, keys or not, is that the melody detracts from the raw, dark atmosphere. vintersorg found a good balance between melody and rawness. the other bands didn't, and my opinion of them would be the same whether they use keys or not. notice how i said naglfar and dark funeral weren't good BM either, and they don't use keys MegaTherion777 swedish black metal. more melodic than some bands, but still a really good BM band. i get to see them live with dark funeral next month! sorry, vinterland. i didn't sleep last night, i'm allowed to make mistakes xp and yes, music tastes mature. that was written back when i was still familiarizing myself with the genre. now that i'm a bit more familiar, i recognize that, as a band they may be good, but they are not a good BM band. it's not about the cross-breeding with other genres - immortal throws in a LOT of thrash, but i love them. it's about the atmosphere - the dark, raw, "evil" atmosphere is the defining trait of black metal, and too many melodic BM bands fail to capture that atmosphere. but i will take some tea, thank you. what are we drinking? earl gray? prince of wales?
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:20 pm
Josh and I had a nice long discussion about evil, darkness, atmosphere, Black metal and metal last night.
We see eye to eye on a lot of things.
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:21 pm
i think strapping young lad fits here pretty well, idk if they are considered core or not, but the only decent thing about that bandn in my oppinion is their drummer, and even then they still suck... loads
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:15 pm
Yeah, I don't like them either.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:03 pm
i was never interested enough to give either SYL or devin townshend band a listen.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:27 pm
Nothing special, I assure you.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:42 pm
I thought Devins CD, Infinity, was pretty good. But other then that its all just decent, nothing too special.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:38 pm
well.. nanowar of steel might be good for powr ,i mean they make fun of metal.
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