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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:36 pm
Hell, this is going to be a tough call on categorization.
Shade Empire is melodic death/black with strong industrial tendencies and keyboard noodling, formed in 1999 and hailing from Finland. The immediate comparison for many might be with Dimmu Borgir or Children of Bodom or…ugh…CoF, but I’m willing to give them a bit more credit than that. I recommend their first album, "Sinthetic."
Chances are that only a few people in the guild will appreciate this, but I still think it’s worth sharing. Any takers?Look, it's a MAISPAYZChemical GodPain & Pleasure
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:54 pm
I bought intoxicate O.S. last week and have been a fan of theirs for quite a while, but they are more black then they are death, by a lot so I'm moving your thread to Black.
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Digital Malevolence Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:44 pm
I enjoyed Sinthetic and Intoxicate O.S. greatly, but I don't like the way the vox seemed to change on Zero Nexus. Maybe it's just the Serpent-Angel single, but it sounds way too much like Alexi Laiho's half-assed rasping now.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:35 pm
I heard about three songs off the album Zero Nexus and I only liked one. The vocals did change a bit for the worse.
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Digital Malevolence Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:50 am
I was going to make a thread about this band here in the summer, but since I wasn't sure which category to put it in (and if I put it in the wrong place I was afraid you'd get mad at me) so I didn't.
I like Intoxicate O.S the best, then Sinthetic and I don't really like Zero Nexus at all. The first song I ever heard was, when they were still really underground, Human Sculpture. Awesome song. Now my favourite is Bloodstar, had it as my ringtone for quite awhile too.
I saw them live at Tuska this past summer. Front row. cool Then my friend whom I met later on there said that yeah she'd been watching the band too with her boyfriend, and he'd been all: "Oh, it's so fun to see your good old friends from school make it big time." Goddammit.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:59 pm
Why do good bands have to go and screw with something that works? stare
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:57 pm
ashlander_alpha Why do good bands have to go and screw with something that works? stare Because without experimentation a band gets very boring. Examples: Godsmack, Dragonforce, etc. Also, changing things helps bands evolve. You can't expect a band to get better unless they change things. Sure the new album might suck but if they are smart they will realize it was less liked then their other stuff and try to revert back to it. Example: Metallica, they put out St. Anger which fans hated so they went back(or tried) to their old style.
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:14 pm
Digital Malevolence Because without experimentation a band gets very boring. Examples: Godsmack, Dragonforce, etc.Also, changing things helps bands evolve. You can't expect a band to get better unless they change things. Sure the new album might suck but if they are smart they will realize it was less liked then their other stuff and try to revert back to it. Example: Metallica, they put out St. Anger which fans hated so they went back(or tried) to their old style. Those bands were never good to start with. xd
I'll grant you that a lack of experimentation and change leads to stagnation (hell, look at Slayer), but the experiments fail more often than they succeed. Metallica, as you mentioned, is the classic example. Except that Metallica's grand ******** up didn't happen on St. Anger, but waaaay back on their s/t. That was an experiment that was successful in terms of popularity, but a failure in terms of music quality. Stylistic change is often heavily correlated with going mainstream.
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:32 pm
ashlander_alpha Digital Malevolence Because without experimentation a band gets very boring. Examples: Godsmack, Dragonforce, etc.Also, changing things helps bands evolve. You can't expect a band to get better unless they change things. Sure the new album might suck but if they are smart they will realize it was less liked then their other stuff and try to revert back to it. Example: Metallica, they put out St. Anger which fans hated so they went back(or tried) to their old style. Those bands were never good to start with. xd
I'll grant you that a lack of experimentation and change leads to stagnation (hell, look at Slayer), but the experiments fail more often than they succeed. Metallica, as you mentioned, is the classic example. Except that Metallica's grand ******** up didn't happen on St. Anger, but waaaay back on their s/t. That was an experiment that was successful in terms of popularity, but a failure in terms of music quality. Stylistic change is often heavily correlated with going mainstream.It all depends, if you ask me for a band to not want to go mainstream is quite dumb and down right bad bussiness. I can't blame any band for going mainstream, I may not like them once they do, but hell, good for them.
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:07 pm
Dark_Mana I was going to make a thread about this band here in the summer, but since I wasn't sure which category to put it in (and if I put it in the wrong place I was afraid you'd get mad at me) so I didn't.
I like Intoxicate O.S the best, then Sinthetic and I don't really like Zero Nexus at all. The first song I ever heard was, when they were still really underground, Human Sculpture. Awesome song. Now my favourite is Bloodstar, had it as my ringtone for quite awhile too.
I saw them live at Tuska this past summer. Front row. cool Then my friend whom I met later on there said that yeah she'd been watching the band too with her boyfriend, and he'd been all: "Oh, it's so fun to see your good old friends from school make it big time." Goddammit. don't worry about things like this. when a thread is put in the wrong subforum, we just move it to the correct one - it doesnt really take any work, and we certainly wouldn't get mad at you! we like to see new threads, so we can tolerate mistakes. also, in the main forum there's a "genre questions" thread where you can ask what genre a band is if you aren't sure. but seriously, don't worry about it, a little mistake like putting them in death instead of black won't get us angry with you cool
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:25 pm
Digital Malevolence It all depends, if you ask me for a band to not want to go mainstream is quite dumb and down right bad bussiness. I can't blame any band for going mainstream, I may not like them once they do, but hell, good for them. Well, as an active member of your own band, you can speak from a different paradigm. If your band had the chance to get signed to a major label and put out a hyped first LP at the expense of having to water down your music, I agree it would be stupid not to. But from my perspective, that of a fan of the band's initial sound, that change in style breeds some resentment. In Flames is another textbook case of this.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:44 pm
ashlander_alpha Digital Malevolence It all depends, if you ask me for a band to not want to go mainstream is quite dumb and down right bad bussiness. I can't blame any band for going mainstream, I may not like them once they do, but hell, good for them. Well, as an active member of your own band, you can speak from a different paradigm. If your band had the chance to get signed to a major label and put out a hyped first LP at the expense of having to water down your music, I agree it would be stupid not to. But from my perspective, that of a fan of the band's initial sound, that change in style breeds some resentment. In Flames is another textbook case of this. ah, yes, in flames, the inevitable textbook example of "******** sellouts" rolleyes of course, i never really liked any of their material, old or new, so i probably am not one to talk
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:19 am
ashlander_alpha Digital Malevolence It all depends, if you ask me for a band to not want to go mainstream is quite dumb and down right bad bussiness. I can't blame any band for going mainstream, I may not like them once they do, but hell, good for them. Well, as an active member of your own band, you can speak from a different paradigm. If your band had the chance to get signed to a major label and put out a hyped first LP at the expense of having to water down your music, I agree it would be stupid not to. But from my perspective, that of a fan of the band's initial sound, that change in style breeds some resentment. In Flames is another textbook case of this.I'm a fan of the bands initial sound too. neutral In Flames were always pretty close to being sellouts.
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