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"my character"

And?

"tone"

Well I didn't think the conversation was going down the tubes.

Is your attitude in line with Guild Rules is the better question.

Kate,

I perhaps may step out of line by saying this, though, that is not the intention.

I would prefer if you didn't "bat" for I.Am, unless of course, he's asking you to. Or, in the other event, you feel so compelled to, it's killing you inside. Apart from that, I'm not very happy being "ganged up" upon in here on these rather serious terms. I'm just being honest on a very emotional level.

Since we are all authority figures here, we don't need mediation. (And rightly so, the only 'official' mediation we can receive is from Beware, our superordinate). On THAT note:

I sincerely do not believe i have conducted myself poorly against I.Am. Let me repeat that: sincerely.

Was I jerk by saying that I was philosophically conflicted? No. Was I a jerk for sincerely offering that, hell yeah, I.Am's reasoning was wrong, but my emotions on the subject were equally as strong? No. And I made that clear. If I didn't make it clear, it's clear now.

I never once insinuated that I.Am is stupid. If I did, I'm sorry. Furthermore, and I want EVERYONE to see this:

Calling someone stupid, or referring to their stupidity is in my book, a lack of decorum, and poor behavior. Is this too "sensitive" of me? No, otherwise I wouldn't be saying it.

So when I.Am referred to my "stupidity" (and you to follow), I must admit, I feel a little attacked. It's one think to say, "You're reasoning right now is poor." It's another to say, "You're stupidity is overwhelming" in so many words.

I have no qualms about, to use your words, "expressing disdain" about what I.Am said. SAID, not HIM. If I was in anyway unkind to him, he should say so, and I'll say, "Sorry!" But that wasn't the intention, and it never was, and I thought it was going rather smoothly. So I'll have to ask that you rethink your implication that I'm being so rebellious and unruly here.

The burden of proof falls to you.


You mean with this?
"The hospital thing I'm eh about. I must admit, I think the argument that medical practitioners should be indiscriminate, in all respects, is a strong one. "

I don't quite see a personal attack there.

I don't quite see a personal attack anywhere.

I actually was quite a "pansy" in the beginning talking about his "marvelous points". (That's an actual quote, not a shock or sarcasm quote).

It's really annoying me that people who get in arguments with me always assume Kate is just defending me because we're in a relationship. Kate is a fair person, and she tells me when I'm truly in the wrong. It's happened before. She also doesn't "gang up" on people for me. If she's discussing something, it's because she's interested in discussing it, not because I'm discussing it; This happens a lot, but that's because we have similar opinions on most things.

And I am further insulted by the insinuation that I would "run to mommy," so to speak; Kate was, in fact, the first person to point out that you were being a jerk even if you didn't realize it.

The fact that you don't see it is exactly why I said you're being an a** and you don't even realize it. Sorry if I use "rough" terms, and am open about my opinion. I don't think you're an awful person and, generally, I don't even think you're a stupid person. I think you're an idealist, and that the ideals of idealists rarely translate well into the real world. Also that idealists rarely want to listen to realists when they explain why an idealist's ideals don't work the way they think they do.

But anyways, I'm not getting into it as much as I could since ya'll are doing the side conversation thing; Which is fine.

Geez....why cant we all be friends?

I thought we ate babies?

@Konchomai: It's not about being friends or not being friends. You can debate with friends quite easily.