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KeeperofShadows
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:11 am


What is your opinion on new Elvish words?

I believe that, with the proper research and thought, new words can be an acceptable thing, considering that Tolkien did leave an incomplete language. As long as his original feel is maintained, new words aren't necessarily a bad thing.

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A man may indeed change his spoon or his cup at his will, and need ask none to advise him or to follow his choice. It is other indeed with words or the modes and devices of speech. Let him bethink him of a new word, be it to his heart howsoever fresh and fair, it will avail him little in converse, until other men are of like mind or will receive his invention.

But among the Eldar there are many quick ears and subtle minds to hear and appraise such inventions, and though many be the patterns and devices so made that prove in the end only pleasing to a few, or to one alone, many others are welcomed and pass swiftly from mouth to mouth, with laughter or delight or with solemn thought - as maybe a new jest or new-found saying of wisdom will pass among men of brighter wit. For to the Eldar the making of speech is the oldest of the arts and the most beloved.
~J.R.R. Tolkien, Dangweth Pengolodh

(Taken from the site Parma Penyanë Quettaron)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:35 pm


I actually think new words would be wonderful. I mean, if they are derived from their elven roots, it should be fine. (As long as they fit in with the phonological constraints of Sindarin or Quenya...) New words are added to existing languages too; they grow and evolve. So since Tolkien was a linguist, I don't think he'd have a problem with it. =)

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Estelara
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:33 pm


I would agree, but I still think we should keep sort of a .... 'rough draft' of what it is now, so that in the future, there will always be the words we know for a fact were made by Tolkien himself.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:44 am


Arendilon
I would agree, but I still think we should keep sort of a .... 'rough draft' of what it is now, so that in the future, there will always be the words we know for a fact were made by Tolkien himself.


I think that as long as his books and fans are around, we'll always know which words were his originals. 3nodding

KeeperofShadows
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Estelara
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:58 pm


So true, so true...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:11 pm


Of cousre, I believe that with proper research, and then using it very often, will make a new elvish word real.

JaceBeleren-MindSculptor


Nimrodel of Lorinand
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:31 am


When used in conversation, alot of elvish words are pretty much "made up".

Like my favorite, "pen u-curu". heart
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:56 am


Nimrodel of Lorinand
When used in conversation, alot of elvish words are pretty much "made up".

Like my favorite, "pen u-curu". heart


Translation?

KeeperofShadows
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