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 Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:23 pm
chaoticpuppet Sage~of~Water This is one of the many Bible chapters/verses against Sodomites and lesbians Now don't let anyone person tell you that the older testament was destroyed when Christ came. For those people are wrong God doesn't change. Do you, perchance, eat shellfish? Do you wear clothes mixed fabric, such as polyesther and cotton? Do you wear clothes made of polyesther? I don't think she meant to say it wasn't abolished. It just wasn't "destoyed", whatever she means by that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:49 am
windswept_fury chaoticpuppet windswept_fury I maintain the regardless of what some man's logic says, I'm going to trust the Bible, and it says very clearly that homosexuality is wrong. It also says locusts have four legs. Where, may I ask? Not that I dont believe you, I'd just like to know where. lol i would like to know too!! hmmm, my thoughts on homosexuality.... *please dont kick me out! these are my thoughts and opinions and i hope i have a right to express them* i think of homosexuality not being the persons fault. yes i know they 'allow' it into their life, but still. at my school, at least a fourth of the people who go their are homosexual or bisexual. i dont know if to label them confused or to not label them at all. at the same time, there are people at my school that are homophobic, hate homosexuals and want them to burn, and there are people who just dont care. i personally dont care what gender these people like to screw, i only care about how they treat people. i have a couple of friends who are bi/homosexual. none of them have tried to do anything to me, and i wouldnt have known that they were the way that they were if they hadnt told me. who knows? maybe some of your friends are bi/homosexuals. but then again, these are my opinions, my friends, my school, and my community. the way we have been raised is and always will be different than yours. and the way that gay marriage is coming, if they allow it, grin and bear it my friends for that is the way the cookie crumbles....
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:01 pm
uannoymedie lol i would like to know too!! I used to know what verse it was, but, unfortunately, due to both time constraints and not having a bible with me, all I can say is that I am fairly certain that it is in either Genesis or Leviticus.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:43 am
i know homosexuallity is wrong because God created adam and eve, not adam and steve.well if the world were all made up of men and men together or women and women together... there would be no children or future.. and genisis its says "and God said be fruitfull and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominon over the fish of the sea and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." notice that God wants us to multiply.. you cant do that if your with the same sex. um... i know that there is bible verses about why homosexuallity is wrong but i can find them now..
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:47 pm
littlechimp i know homosexuallity is wrong because God created adam and eve, not adam and steve.well if the world were all made up of men and men together or women and women together... there would be no children or future.. 'Tis nice to know that you are an advocate for incest; I mean for surely you know, that with Adam and Eve, there could only be their offspring, thus making such that there would have to be incest in order to multiply after the first generation. So, if you want to exclude homosexuality at the expense of making incest look good, keep using this argument. Though, realize that incest is a cause of certain genetic mutations such as down syndrome. Quote: and genisis its says "and God said be fruitfull and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominon over the fish of the sea and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." notice that God wants us to multiply.. That merely states that God wanted another generation. It makes absolutely no reference to the idea or practice of homosexual sex. As such, to say that it excludes homosexual sex by not even mentioning it, is asinine and foolish. Further, assuming we eventually gain the technology to create clones, there will be no need for the male sex, as we will be able to simply take a cell from a woman to create another woman with an egg cell. Thus, we could multiply with only one sex - though this technology may not be likely to be invented for some time, due to the intricacies of the human.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:37 pm
chaoticpuppet littlechimp i know homosexuallity is wrong because God created adam and eve, not adam and steve.well if the world were all made up of men and men together or women and women together... there would be no children or future.. 'Tis nice to know that you are an advocate for incest; I mean for surely you know, that with Adam and Eve, there could only be their offspring, thus making such that there would have to be incest in order to multiply after the first generation. So, if you want to exclude homosexuality at the expense of making incest look good, keep using this argument. Though, realize that incest is a cause of certain genetic mutations such as down syndrome. Quote: and genisis its says "and God said be fruitfull and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominon over the fish of the sea and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." notice that God wants us to multiply.. That merely states that God wanted another generation. It makes absolutely no reference to the idea or practice of homosexual sex. As such, to say that it excludes homosexual sex by not even mentioning it, is asinine and foolish. Further, assuming we eventually gain the technology to create clones, there will be no need for the male sex, as we will be able to simply take a cell from a woman to create another woman with an egg cell. Thus, we could multiply with only one sex - though this technology may not be likely to be invented for some time, due to the intricacies of the human. i heard what you have to say. but God did not mention more people there .. there couldve been more people.. ya never know.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:18 pm
chaoticpuppet littlechimp i know homosexuallity is wrong because God created adam and eve, not adam and steve.well if the world were all made up of men and men together or women and women together... there would be no children or future.. 'Tis nice to know that you are an advocate for incest; I mean for surely you know, that with Adam and Eve, there could only be their offspring, thus making such that there would have to be incest in order to multiply after the first generation. So, if you want to exclude homosexuality at the expense of making incest look good, keep using this argument. Though, realize that incest is a cause of certain genetic mutations such as down syndrome. Quote: and genisis its says "and God said be fruitfull and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominon over the fish of the sea and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." notice that God wants us to multiply.. That merely states that God wanted another generation. It makes absolutely no reference to the idea or practice of homosexual sex. As such, to say that it excludes homosexual sex by not even mentioning it, is asinine and foolish. Further, assuming we eventually gain the technology to create clones, there will be no need for the male sex, as we will be able to simply take a cell from a woman to create another woman with an egg cell. Thus, we could multiply with only one sex - though this technology may not be likely to be invented for some time, due to the intricacies of the human. Going on the whole incest thing, and considering that we all come from Noah's family, wouldn't that make us all advocates of incest, chaotic? See, we're all, in essence, related, no matter how close or distantly.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:21 pm
littlechimp chaoticpuppet littlechimp i know homosexuallity is wrong because God created adam and eve, not adam and steve.well if the world were all made up of men and men together or women and women together... there would be no children or future.. 'Tis nice to know that you are an advocate for incest; I mean for surely you know, that with Adam and Eve, there could only be their offspring, thus making such that there would have to be incest in order to multiply after the first generation. So, if you want to exclude homosexuality at the expense of making incest look good, keep using this argument. Though, realize that incest is a cause of certain genetic mutations such as down syndrome. Quote: and genisis its says "and God said be fruitfull and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominon over the fish of the sea and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." notice that God wants us to multiply.. That merely states that God wanted another generation. It makes absolutely no reference to the idea or practice of homosexual sex. As such, to say that it excludes homosexual sex by not even mentioning it, is asinine and foolish. Further, assuming we eventually gain the technology to create clones, there will be no need for the male sex, as we will be able to simply take a cell from a woman to create another woman with an egg cell. Thus, we could multiply with only one sex - though this technology may not be likely to be invented for some time, due to the intricacies of the human. i heard what you have to say. but God did not mention more people there .. there couldve been more people.. ya never know. I personally take Genesis literally, and believe there was only, and I mean only, Adam and Eve. The Bible gives us the whole geneology starting with Adam, not with anyone else. Besides, after Noah and the flood, it wouldn't really matter, now, would it? I mean, the Bible clearly states that Noah's wife, their sons, and their son's wives were the only ones besides the animals on the ark. So, we still all come from one family.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:56 am
littlechimp i heard what you have to say. but God did not mention more people there .. there couldve been more people.. ya never know. Funny that your using that argument here, when you blatantly contradict such an argument in your earlier post. You claim ignorance here, because others are not mentioned, whereas with homosexuality, you claim it is wrong because god said "be fruitfull and multiply," which in no way restricts the practice of homosexuality, except in that there is required to be subsequent generations. Meaning that, nothing in Genesis is said on homosexuality, merely on the topic of procreation, quintessentially stating that the only way to multiply (until such technology as to allow otherwise) is through heterosecual sex. You see, here, in your above quoted post, you are arguing that Adam and Eve are the only ones mentioned (in regards to the beginning of humans), and because of this, we cannot necessarily conclude that there was incest. However, on the topic of homosexuality, you are arguing that because it is not mentioned, it is therefore wrong. Your argument, in this case, is lost - by which I mean, you have created doubt in your orginal argument, by the way you are arguing your stance on incest and homosexuality. windswept_fury Going on the whole incest thing, and considering that we all come from Noah's family, wouldn't that make us all advocates of incest, chaotic? See, we're all, in essence, related, no matter how close or distantly. Incest is usually defined as within immediate family through first cousins. Thus, for Adam and Eve, it would have been incest, a few generations later, it may not necessarily have been incest. Now, if Genesis is to be taken literally in the case of Adam and Eve, then, yes, we are all related in some way. However, if this is not the case, then, it is unable to be concluded that we are all related.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:20 pm
Here are some newer testament verses.
Rom. 1: 26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Jude 7
7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:48 pm
I have a locust comment. I remember reading that the word 'locust' in said verse was incorrectly translated from 'grasshopper'.
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