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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:37 am
MegaTherion777 My Hollow lotusvoid MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 and just like all christians really, truly, deeply love their fellow man. We are supposed to, doesn't mean we do. It takes practice. LOTS of practice. I'm still extremely resentful for my mom's old friend's family. They treated her and I like crap. Utter CRAP. I'm working on forgiving them, but it isn't easy. It takes prayer and practice. actually, that was an indirect jab at the gay-hating, racist bible belt christians around me who claim to love everybody and then preach nothing but hate to others. not directed at christians who actually make an attempt to follow the teachings of christ, rather than bend said teachings into hatred Are you against Same sex relationships hollow? I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:50 am
My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow lotusvoid MegaTherion777 actually, that was an indirect jab at the gay-hating, racist bible belt christians around me who claim to love everybody and then preach nothing but hate to others. not directed at christians who actually make an attempt to follow the teachings of christ, rather than bend said teachings into hatred Are you against Same sex relationships hollow? I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:59 am
Isn't there a species of lizards that's all female? Basically they're able to stimulate each other in order to have babies, despite both being female.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:12 am
The War Starter Isn't there a species of lizards that's all female? Basically they're able to stimulate each other in order to have babies, despite both being female. idk. but some species of frog can switch genders if the ratio is out of wack
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 am
MegaTherion777 idk. but some species of frog can switch genders if the ratio is out of wack Earthworms are hermaphrodites, so they can mate with whichever earthworm happens to pass by first. biggrin
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:19 am
Dark_Mana MegaTherion777 idk. but some species of frog can switch genders if the ratio is out of wack Earthworms are hermaphrodites, so they can mate with whichever earthworm happens to pass by first. biggrin well, you learn something new every day. unfortunately i never learn anything from the classes i'm paying to take at university, but instead from people i know outside of my classes. xp
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:49 pm
MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow lotusvoid MegaTherion777 actually, that was an indirect jab at the gay-hating, racist bible belt christians around me who claim to love everybody and then preach nothing but hate to others. not directed at christians who actually make an attempt to follow the teachings of christ, rather than bend said teachings into hatred Are you against Same sex relationships hollow? I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity. Everything is effect by sin. If the world is imperfect, then everything is imperfect. I consulted my mother about this animal homosexuality thing, because she studied to be a marine biologist and such. She said it was extremely rare, but it does happen. As for the soul thing, That in and of itself is a hawt mess. Debates and debates and debate on whether animals have souls or not. I know what I believe personally and I know what others believe. It's really a moot point. Whether animals have souls or they do not dpoesn't change the fact that sin/evil whatever you want to call it is messing with the wrold. Whether you be an atheist or theist, you have to admit there is some seriously jacked up stuff happening on this earth.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:55 pm
My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity. Everything is effect by sin. If the world is imperfect, then everything is imperfect. I consulted my mother about this animal homosexuality thing, because she studied to be a marine biologist and such. She said it was extremely rare, but it does happen. As for the soul thing, That in and of itself is a hawt mess. Debates and debates and debate on whether animals have souls or not. I know what I believe personally and I know what others believe. It's really a moot point. Whether animals have souls or they do not dpoesn't change the fact that sin/evil whatever you want to call it is messing with the wrold. Whether you be an atheist or theist, you have to admit there is some seriously jacked up stuff happening on this earth. indeed, there is some messed up stuff happening. many modern atheists use epicurus' argument from evil as a support for their disbelief, but that's actually not logically sound. all the argument from evil supports is an argument that god(s) is(/are) indifferent (which was the argument epicurus was actually making in the first place)
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:58 am
My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity. Everything is effect by sin. If the world is imperfect, then everything is imperfect. I consulted my mother about this animal homosexuality thing, because she studied to be a marine biologist and such. She said it was extremely rare, but it does happen. As for the soul thing, That in and of itself is a hawt mess. Debates and debates and debate on whether animals have souls or not. I know what I believe personally and I know what others believe. It's really a moot point. Whether animals have souls or they do not dpoesn't change the fact that sin/evil whatever you want to call it is messing with the wrold. Whether you be an atheist or theist, you have to admit there is some seriously jacked up stuff happening on this earth. What really is a soul though? I mean, my dog is so human-like in the way he acts
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:27 am
MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow I see where this is going, but I will answer your question. Do I think homosexuality is immoral? Yes I do. Do I think it goes against how God designed us? Yes, I do. Do I hate them? Of course not. Ever hear of the saying love the sinner, hate the sin? I don't agree with that aspect of their lives, but I don't hate them as people. I have had friends who are gay and I don't hate them. I love them. that's what i've always though, but so many of these bible-belt assholes just HATE gays, period. although i do have two questions for you. do animals have free will? if they do not, and homosexuality goes against god, then why is homosexuality visible in animals as well as humans? i have never gotten a clear answer on this, and i'm curious to know how it fits with the christian viewpoint. In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity. Everything is effect by sin. If the world is imperfect, then everything is imperfect. I consulted my mother about this animal homosexuality thing, because she studied to be a marine biologist and such. She said it was extremely rare, but it does happen. As for the soul thing, That in and of itself is a hawt mess. Debates and debates and debate on whether animals have souls or not. I know what I believe personally and I know what others believe. It's really a moot point. Whether animals have souls or they do not dpoesn't change the fact that sin/evil whatever you want to call it is messing with the wrold. Whether you be an atheist or theist, you have to admit there is some seriously jacked up stuff happening on this earth. indeed, there is some messed up stuff happening. many modern atheists use epicurus' argument from evil as a support for their disbelief, but that's actually not logically sound. all the argument from evil supports is an argument that god(s) is(/are) indifferent (which was the argument epicurus was actually making in the first place) The other issue to be raised with Epicurus' argument is that from a Christian perspective, we brought evil into the world, not God. So God not preventing it is NOT malevolent, but is allowing us to have free will, and what he does is works through it to make positive differences. I've yet to see an act of evil that didn't have something good come out of it. Other people bring up natural disasters, like Katrina, but they don't realize how much that kinda brought our country together, and how many people go on mission trips over there and such. It really brought out the best in a lot of people. So basically, evil IS going to happen, regardless of if they have souls. Personally I believe they have free will, but that does not necessarily mean they have a soul. A computer, essentially, has free will. You can do with it what you want within its capabilities, but it doesn't have consciousness. But it is not limited by God or anything besides its physical capacities.
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Warrior of Metal Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:01 am
MegaTherion777 Dark_Mana MegaTherion777 idk. but some species of frog can switch genders if the ratio is out of wack Earthworms are hermaphrodites, so they can mate with whichever earthworm happens to pass by first. biggrin well, you learn something new every day. unfortunately i never learn anything from the classes i'm paying to take at university, but instead from people i know outside of my classes. xp when u cut at half an earthworm it becomes 2 earthworms ???
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:33 am
Warrior of Metal MegaTherion777 My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow In general, in the animal kingdom the majority of animals mate in pairs - male and female- to produce offspring. Instances of any instances of any sort of behavior between males and females is rare. However I do believe that there's a distinct difference between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom. That we are moral creatures who follow God's moral law as set forth in His scripture. Though I don't think I answred your question there..it be late, I R tired. Is this what you are getting at: Basically from the Christian perspective, there is sin in this world, and it perverted things. Basically the world is not as it should be, imperfect. So why do some animals show signs of homosexuality or why even do they eat people (I have heard some interesting topics on this)?? Because this worl is JACKED up. i can sorta get the world is jacked up thing, except i dont see how that could make something that a) has no soul so is unaffected by sin and b) has no free will go against god. and animals only eat the people who are stupid and deserve to get eaten, like the guy who thought the grizzlies had accepted him into their "tribe." farking idiot deserved to get eaten for his stupidity. Everything is effect by sin. If the world is imperfect, then everything is imperfect. I consulted my mother about this animal homosexuality thing, because she studied to be a marine biologist and such. She said it was extremely rare, but it does happen. As for the soul thing, That in and of itself is a hawt mess. Debates and debates and debate on whether animals have souls or not. I know what I believe personally and I know what others believe. It's really a moot point. Whether animals have souls or they do not dpoesn't change the fact that sin/evil whatever you want to call it is messing with the wrold. Whether you be an atheist or theist, you have to admit there is some seriously jacked up stuff happening on this earth. indeed, there is some messed up stuff happening. many modern atheists use epicurus' argument from evil as a support for their disbelief, but that's actually not logically sound. all the argument from evil supports is an argument that god(s) is(/are) indifferent (which was the argument epicurus was actually making in the first place) The other issue to be raised with Epicurus' argument is that from a Christian perspective, we brought evil into the world, not God. So God not preventing it is NOT malevolent, but is allowing us to have free will, and what he does is works through it to make positive differences. I've yet to see an act of evil that didn't have something good come out of it. Other people bring up natural disasters, like Katrina, but they don't realize how much that kinda brought our country together, and how many people go on mission trips over there and such. It really brought out the best in a lot of people. So basically, evil IS going to happen, regardless of if they have souls. Personally I believe they have free will, but that does not necessarily mean they have a soul. A computer, essentially, has free will. You can do with it what you want within its capabilities, but it doesn't have consciousness. But it is not limited by God or anything besides its physical capacities. again, keep in mind that epicurus was not working within the christian framework. his argument worked when applied to the ancient greek gods, but nowadays it's just good-sounding rhetoric
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:45 am
Txuss MegaTherion777 Dark_Mana MegaTherion777 idk. but some species of frog can switch genders if the ratio is out of wack Earthworms are hermaphrodites, so they can mate with whichever earthworm happens to pass by first. biggrin well, you learn something new every day. unfortunately i never learn anything from the classes i'm paying to take at university, but instead from people i know outside of my classes. xp when u cut at half an earthworm it becomes 2 earthworms ??? No, it means an earthworm can mate with any other earthworm.
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