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WayfarerStrife

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:38 pm


Akanishi Makoto
~ Jade Samadhi ~
Okay... I just went to Buddhanet to try and find more information, but now I'm even more confused. It says roughly the same things, and the same ideas as things which have already come up, but... now I'm totally lost.

Any ideas?
Ok, here's how Karma works in a Buddhist world.

First of all, before we even start about good versus bad, rebirth this or rebirth that, we need to talk about your birth.

Every living thing starts off life, for the most part, innocent and unclean. We are born because there was enough Karma to start another life, but we haven't started to accumlate Karma in this life quite yet. There is still an infinite amount of Karma from past lives, however, which is what I'm getting to next.

What makes you who you are? Your flesh and blood? Would you be a different person if you were in a different body?
What about your thoughts. Surely they are unique. Would you be a different person if you thought differently?
How about your experiences? Do different people have different experiences?

Who "you" are, as an illusionary and transient ego, is made up of experiences, thoughts and volitions. Because of this ignorance in thinking you (not you inparticular, but everyone) are different, permanent and solid; we create this selfish Karma because of the selfish Ego.

This has never had a real "beginning". Possibly the beginning of time, or perhaps the beginning of consciousness - who knows? Buddhists shouldn't even care.

But why do we have Karma from past lives, if nothing from the past life comes forward with us? See, that's a view out of black and white thinking. Nothing comes with us, that's true. But we still have been reborn, so something came along, didn't it? Quite perplexing. When we die, all of those experiences and thoughts and that form are stripped away. What is left is nothing, because to call it a thing is to rob it of its nothingness. Yes, something carries over, but it's not you, because you are transient and illusionary.

Get it?


Nice speech ... I think I understand karma a bit more now ... mrgreen
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:42 am


Well it's good to know that reincarnation according to this understanding doesn't contradict anatman. However, I'm not so certain that the concept of karma is necessary or necessarily true.

gigacannon


~ Jade Samadhi ~

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:17 pm


Egads! I don't know what to believe!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:28 am


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~ Jade Samadhi ~


Omoi Dake

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:14 am


Well this is how I see it, rebirth is often misconcieved. What happens is, basically if you have found complete enlightenment, you are kind off given a second chance. You are reborn in another being, instead of your sould moving to another being. This will happen until you have become completely enlightened. It is a cycle that only ends with complete enlightenment.
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