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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:09 pm
Getting back to the beginning of the movement, let's discuss Phranc; her contributions to feminist music, her roots in the '70s L.A. punk scene that formed her career as "The Folksinger." I think our folk roots are often forgotten. So many rioters I know are so caught up in being kick a** punk ladies that our herstory and what the movement originally was seems to be blurred lately. So I guess on top of discussing Phranc and other pioneers of feminist music my other question is what is riot grrrl to you? What are your goals as an activist? Are you an activist? ECT...
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:58 am
I'm guessing no one really cares...
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:50 pm
i would definitely comment, except i don't have anything to say. about phranc, at least.
i should check phranc out, shouldn't i?
what riot grrrl is to me: a feminist movement striving for equal rights for women and men. it incorporates activism, the arts, and music into this goal. (yeah, pretty weak definition...i can't find the right words.)
for example, the riot grrrl movement (imo) would support a woman's choice to be a successful ceo just as it would support a man's choice to be a stay-at-home dad. it kind of tries to abolish gender roles.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:26 am
Rebel Girl i would definitely comment, except i don't have anything to say. about phranc, at least.
i should check phranc out, shouldn't i?
what riot grrrl is to me: a feminist movement striving for equal rights for women and men. it incorporates activism, the arts, and music into this goal. (yeah, pretty weak definition...i can't find the right words.)
for example, the riot grrrl movement (imo) would support a woman's choice to be a successful ceo just as it would support a man's choice to be a stay-at-home dad. it kind of tries to abolish gender roles. That doesn't seem weak to me. The abolishment of gender roles and how they confine people seems to be a huge part of the movement to most people. The reason I ask what the movement is to you is because different people will give you different definitions of what feminism is. It's a very personal thing for most people and I think they way to get the most accurate impression of what Riot Grrrl and feminism are these days is to hear what it means to different people.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:20 pm
i don't really know anything about Phranc but i do know a lot about other 70's feminists. I'm so tired right now though... i think i'll post an actual thing about them later. but yeah. <3 roots
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:09 pm
I don't know anything about Phranc, but this all sounds fascinating...
In fact, I used to hate female vocalists, it seemed they were all just...objects. Being force-fed feelings of love, loss, despair, sexiness...The first Female Vocalists that I found to be strong, beautiful and expressing women of true independence were Ani DiFranco and Kate Bush.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:42 pm
HangingHeathen I don't know anything about Phranc, but this all sounds fascinating... In fact, I used to hate female vocalists, it seemed they were all just...objects. Being force-fed feelings of love, loss, despair, sexiness...The first Female Vocalists that I found to be strong, beautiful and expressing women of true independence were Ani DiFranco and Kate Bush. Ani 3nodding I know what you mean, if you look at most pop females, not only do they have weak vocals and less then desirable musical talent, but their lyrics lack any originality or true meaning beyond "Oh I love him" or "Oh I used to love him and then he screwed me over". @Shizz: Most people, I'm finding, don't know much, if anything, about Phranc. She is/was pretty kick a**, though I suppose that if you are not into folk, which I love so much, then you'll probably not know who she is.
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