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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:57 pm
My theories:
1 - Vampire c** should make you sterile, should you not use a condom. Reason:
If the semen of a male vampire should reach your reproductive system, would it not make you sterile, while giving you killer cramps? I don't know if it really would make a female infertile, but it's in the body, and since every bodily fluid is replaced with venom... I think it might, if all the timing's perfect. I just got this because I was thinking, venom kills things and freezes it for all eternity, so...
*semen/c** is being used as an interchanging word with venom 2 - There is definitely a way around not biting Bella, by needle injection, but dosages of said injection might effect the time the change takes. Reason: If you put venom into a needle and inject it directly into the bloodstream, problem solved. There's absolutely no way that has a problem with it. But if you inject it into multiple places with large dosages, then proceed to inject venom in the heart in a large dose, it should, one, kill her automatically, and two, it should be considerably a considerably shorter, since it's already going directly into the heart and doesn't have to go through the blood stream. And if it still does have to? Just put venom--in extremely large amounts--everywhere. Legs, arms, stomach, neck. Everything that possible could need it would get it in easily supplied access. It might increase pain because of the fact you're putting her directly into the middle or ending portion of the change, though. Words Of Wisdom:
"Older brothers are the guys that say you can't date till 40, and when you can they'll make your boyfriend cry."
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:23 am
Honey, no one would steal that first one because it's down right retarded.
Meyer has already stated in some interview that vampires don't have any bodily liquids. The only thing they really have in them that they produce is the venom in their mouths.
Which means vampires don't have semen.
And about the second theory, it's not a fact you came up with first off. It's still a theory unless you are the unlogical Meyer herself. I don't know if it would be less painful since they body still has transform itself into being cold, stone hard, sparkly, etc.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:08 am
One, I'm sorry you decided to be a b***h. Notice the posting time? I was about to go to sleep and had a thought, so I decided to share it. I'm sorry, Miss High and Mighty, that you're not only sleep deprived, but a rude tired person.
As for theory one? It was a theory I was running by everyone. I'm sorry I had a thought. However, in Twilight it was stated, for a fact and for all to see, "venom replaces all our body fluids when we die." This means c** and saliva would become venom. And venom is a vampire's saliva, as she stated before in an interview, so it means they do have bodily fluids, and she contradicting herself. Sorry our author is kind of scatterbrained.
And two is a fact, because INJECTION IS NOT A BITE, AND VENOM IN THE BLOODSTREAM WOULD KILL HER, MAKING IT A "LEGAL" WAY TO TURN HER INTO A VAMPIRE. So hah. It is fact. I just mentioned doses because it seemed about right, and injection to the heart would stop it, effectively killing her. Huh, happy, sunshine?
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:01 am
Sweetie, did you know that there is such a thing as time zones? I just woke up from a nice long sleep after spending a long, fun day with my friends and decided to post my opinion. Please try to be intelligent enough to realize that people have other opiniong than you and will find faults in yourself just as it happens to other people.
You keep contradicting yourself, dear. Just like Meyer. In your first post you said your theory was that a vampire semen couldn't get you pregnant. By saying that you believe a vampire wouldn't need a condom because of your thought that vampire semen would make you sterile. Yet you turn around and say that it's all venom. Which is it? Semen and venom are not the same things, but it seems to me you used them as interchangable words by your reaction. Either communicate your thoughts well or don't b***h at me.
Also, sweetie, two is not a fact. Have you forgotten what you posted in bigger font? "MY THEORIES. " Not "One theory and a fact."
It's still a theory since you're not the author, as I said before. I wasn't saying that injections from a needle were the same thing as a bite. You don't know it it's less painful, in fact maybe large amounts of venom are too extreme and increases the pain by tenfold. That may be why it only takes one bite to transform someone into a vampire.
No one except Meyer knows exactly how the vampire transformations work since we hardly get information through Bella. All we know is that it hurts, takes a few days, and when you're done you're not in full control of your new body yet.
I hope this isn't the first time someone has had a conflicting opinion than yourself. If it is, well, don't I feel special.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:44 am
I sorry. I misunderstood you, and I believe you misunderstood me. I thought it would be clear that "semen" and "venom" are being interchanged with each other, since venom is the only bodily fluid that a vampire can produce. My mistake. I thought since that was obvious, you would notice it. However, that does not seem to be the case.
The theory portion is the direct injection. Dosage is also mentioned in the book. If there's too little, the process takes longer and is more painful because of the drawing out. Thus, it's only logical the pain be increased for a short time, but extremely short lived. It does only take one bite, but that's a three-day, painful way. Don't forget Rosalie was bitten three times, to give the transition a quicker way. Though you're not in control of your instincts at first, you are control of your body. They just tend to be unruly because of their unquenchable thirst.
So, yeah. You are certainly not the first person to disagree with me, and normally it doesn't bother me at all. I'm terribly sorry I bristled so quickly. I wasn't exactly expecting such a... rude reply. Or, at least, that's how it came across to me. I forget how often people are forgotten for what they are really coming across as, since you do not have facial expressions or voice tones. I came across stupid to you, and you came across bitchy to me. Horribly sorry. Perhaps, if we were to talk in person, we would think different of one another, and you my theory and fact. Haha, oh well.
I also edited some things, given your... advice.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:40 am
Why is semen and venom the same thing? Semen equaling organic fluid that contains sperm for reproduction while venom equals the sole fluid Meyerpires produce and use to either transform someone into a vampire or to slow down/kill prey to feed upon. They seem pretty different to me. :/
And your first theory... Is it suppose to be a question? Because it sounds like one due to the placement of "should".
I think the first theory is hard to assess for me since the whole how vampires have sex in the first place has not been explained yet. But if we assume for the sake of the argument that vampire sex works just like sex between humans, a vampire would ejaculate venom into the woman's uterus. I think it would make the woman sterile since she'll be turning into a vampire anways with the venom in her.xD Even though the venom entered through her uterus instead of the bloodstream, the transformation would still take place since even when a vampire bites into the bloodstream, everything is eventually affected by the venom in the end. Also, I don't think the vampires need condoms since, again, they have no reproductive sperm in them anymore. So that one is pretty easy to answer.
As for the second one, I guess that's a way to get around the treaty, but I don't think Bella would do it. Just talking about the dosage amount, again, things get iffy due to lack of information from SMeyer. It's been stated in the books that it varies from one vampire to another and when it comes right down to it, we only know it hurts horribly, takes a rough estimate of days, and that newborns are strong. When you change it from biting to injection, that throws in more variables to an already foggy and ever changing thing.
If the venom is injected right into the heart, that would make it much easier to get through all of the veins since the heart is what pumps the blood in the first place. I still think, though, that the venom has reach the whole body and will whether by injecting it manually or letting the venom spread throughout the body. I think it wouldn't put Bella body right into the middle or ending stages of the transformation because that's just not logical. It's like saying you'll give growth hormones to a flower seed and a few seconds later it already has a stem, leaves, and a bud. No, the seed would still have to poke out of the ground and start from there, just quicker. So, Bella would just transform quicker instead of "putting her directly into the middle or ending portion of the change".
Also, would that mean Carlisle would have to hijack multiple needles from the hospital and have Edward spit in them? xD
If that were to happen, Bella would probably get all pissy and want Edward to bite her lovingly, etc. ::sigh:: Because Bella always has to get her way.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:31 am
I made semen and venom interchangeable so you know they'ew not spitting at her. Yeah, I know, it was a stretch. But have you the majority of theories are bad, so... eh. I just threw it out there. It does come across as a question, because it's not a definite. So I put "should" instead of "would", because it's just a theory.
And as for "putting her into the direct middle of ending portion of the change" I was making a prominent point of how it should go quicker. Bad wording, I guess. And yeah--I did kinda see Edward spitting them. O.o; Maybe it could be a family project. You know, play a video game or two, go shopping, all help Bella with her assisted death... And Bella always getting what she wants is really starting to tick me off. This whole series is, actually, but whatever. I've been in it this long.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:20 am
well...the needle thing would seem possible, but doesn't the treaty include killing/changing someone? Yes, if they were bitten, it would automatically break the treaty, but killing or changing someone would pretty much set the wolves off as well right?
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:28 am
I don't think so. Nothing was mentioned about killing someone, though it might upset the werewolves. It just says the can't bite anyone, feeding purposes or otherwise.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:45 am
The werewolves would obviously care if someone was killed. The whole bite thing is a technicality Jacob brought up in New Moon, pointing out that even if changing her wasn't considered hurting or killing, the treaty said that there would be war should the Cullens BITE anyone. Using an injection would solve that problem, and the treaty would not be broken, although the Cullens would have some extreamly angry werewolf neighbors to deal with. I think this solution is extreamly well thought up and creative. And it would work, like in one of the blade movies. The first one, however, I don't think is very practical or justifiable.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:19 am
I think they would consider injection venow into her body in any way a violation of the treaty. Needle injection sounds all right from a technical standpoint, I don't think the wolves would view it that way. They're highly emotional people, not easily foiled lawyers.
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:34 pm
LOL @ that debate/cat fight
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:07 pm
Sapphire Waterlilly LOL @ that debate/cat fight Agreed. Lighten up everyone, this is supposed to be for fun and an area to bounce your ideas off of other people. heart
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