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Little Rachael

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:18 pm


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ATLANTA - The Atkins diet may have proved itself after all: A low-carb diet and a Mediterranean-style regimen helped people lose more weight than a traditional low-fat diet in one of the longest and largest studies to compare the dueling weight-loss techniques.

A bigger surprise: The low-carb diet improved cholesterol more than the other two. Some critics had predicted the opposite.

"It is a vindication," said Abby Bloch of the Dr. Robert C. and Veronica Atkins Foundation, a philanthropy group that honors the Atkins' diet's creator and was the study's main funder.

However, all three approaches — the low-carb diet, a low-fat diet and a so-called Mediterranean diet — achieved weight loss and improved cholesterol.

The study is remarkable not only because it lasted two years, much longer than most, but also because of the huge proportion of people who stuck with the diets — 85 percent.


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I'm currently on WeightWatchers, and I thought this article was interesting. I did try the Atkins diet for a while, but it was difficult for me because I crave carbohydrates. With WW I can eat carbohydrates, just not in such large amounts.

I've never tried a low-fat or Mediterranean diet.

What do you think of the results of this study?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:08 pm


i am not surprised. i always thought Atkins works because you body starts using fat for energy due to the lack of carbs. Though personally i could not do it, i would rather be a vegan then go on Atkins.

funkyvixen416


The Dread Pirate Ghosty

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:03 am


Where does it say which diet is most effective at keeping the weight off?

You lose weight on the atkins probably because the diet is so unhealthy. When you eat normal again your body gains it back.

Weight watchers is the best diet, as lifestyle change is what it aims to teach it's members. Lifestyle change is really the only way to lose and keep off weight.

I'm not dieting, I'm just trying to eat healthier, work out, etc. I've been much more effective with a slow and steady weight loss, and when I plateau I don't worry about it for awhile (I actually stopped for six months 'cause I got too busy) and didn't gain back any weight, beyond the typical 5lb fluctuation.

I'm only now trying to actively lose again, and I'm much more inspired because I managed to keep it off for 6 months just living my normal lifestyle.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:26 pm


Atkins and all that aren't very good in the essence of long term, i mean could you imagine eating like the rest of your life. weight watchers is more about better eating habits. So ultimately lifestyle change is best, diet not so good.

funkyvixen416


Fuzzy Necromancer

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:46 pm


Losing more weight isn't necisarily the best diet efficacy indicator. Losing weight healthily, keeping it off, and not losing it too fast are. Odds are anyting promising to drop a few dress sizes in a fortnight does so by going after your immune system with a wrecking ball.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:28 am


great point fuzzy

funkyvixen416


Zumbi2

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:50 pm


Actually the atkins diet is really good for losing weight in a healthy manner, and when keeping off weight for long term, take the atkins diet and add lots of fruits and veggies to it. It'll help a lot.

Also bread made from flax seed, barley, and so forth are really healthy and help to lose weight.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:54 pm


Also it turns out one of the main reasons people have a hard time losing weight is because of undigested fecal matter stuck in ones colon. A good colon cleansing program will take care of that, and will result in 5-20 lbs being lost in one shot in a healthy and natural manner.

Also when on the atkins diet eat lots of veggies, or take fiber pills 4 times a day.

Zumbi2


The Dread Pirate Ghosty

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:47 am


From what I've understood of the atkins diet, it's a very meat and potato diet... very, very meat.

Which isn't the way humans were designed to eat long-term.

Colon cleansings are also not a "healthy" or "natural" manner. Taking something that causes you to have to stay by your toilet for an entire day is like making yourself sick on purpose. When your body is trying to expell stuff in that manner, it probably means what you're doing wasn't good for it.

I'm not saying if somebody wants to try a colon cleansing it's horrible. My friend suggested it to me once when I was talking about losing weight, said she'd done it, when I asked her what it entailed she told me the whole "I couldn't leave my toilet for 24 hours". Somehow I was turned off to the idea of making myself sick on purpose.

And I don't believe that's what gives people trouble losing weight, other than maybe that last 20 pounds. I have 40 to go to lose down to my goal weight, and I plateaued and now I'm having trouble losing again even six months later. I doubt my colon has much to do with why I can't lose any weight when I have plenty to lose.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:46 pm


The Dread Pirate Ghosty
From what I've understood of the atkins diet, it's a very meat and potato diet... very, very meat.

Which isn't the way humans were designed to eat long-term.

Colon cleansings are also not a "healthy" or "natural" manner. Taking something that causes you to have to stay by your toilet for an entire day is like making yourself sick on purpose. When your body is trying to expell stuff in that manner, it probably means what you're doing wasn't good for it.

I'm not saying if somebody wants to try a colon cleansing it's horrible. My friend suggested it to me once when I was talking about losing weight, said she'd done it, when I asked her what it entailed she told me the whole "I couldn't leave my toilet for 24 hours". Somehow I was turned off to the idea of making myself sick on purpose.

And I don't believe that's what gives people trouble losing weight, other than maybe that last 20 pounds. I have 40 to go to lose down to my goal weight, and I plateaued and now I'm having trouble losing again even six months later. I doubt my colon has much to do with why I can't lose any weight when I have plenty to lose.


Trust me the atkins diet isn't really all meat and potatoes. It's mainly eating protien. Anything that is very low carb and full of protien and a medium to slightly high amount of fat. Reason for that is cause your body can us any of the three as a source of energy. Fat has the most energy, but it takes a lot of work to break the hydrocarbon bonds. Your boy rarely uses protien since those are the main building blocks for everything in your body. Carbs are the most conveient and easiest source of energy for your body to use. Thats why the atkins diet is designed the way it is. If you don't feel like eating lots of meat eat mainly plants and fungi with lots of protien and fat and fiber. But meat whether it is from cattle, fish or anything is more effective since it has a higher content of protien and more calories. But it's still good to add a fair amount of plant and fungi protien so that you get a complete protien and complete fat.

Also real colon cleansing programs don't do what happened to your friend. She did a laxative program. There is a large difference. Real colon programs hellp to get your colon working correct again, and haves the muscles of your colon start to ungulate in the correct manner. They also come with a fiber pill, and a herbal pill. Both containing what is needed to break the fecal matter that is undigested aparted, and push it out in a noormal time frame. Real colon programs take time. About 1-2 months. Not 1 day. Plus when all that undigested fecal matter comes out the first time, you'll know it. You'll feel extremely light afterward, when you look, all your will see is black.

Losing all of that fecal matter allows your body to get rid of toxins much faster, and is a better manner. Plus your body will be able to absorb nutrients much better as a result also. But when your body begins to rid it self of all of those toxins, you will get sick from time to time, and you will get acne and hives and rashes. It is a very normal reaction, and nothing to worry about. The samething happens when you lose fat. Since fat stores everything.

So your friend did something very unhealthy.

But you do have to still work out, and take fiber from food, and take other fiber pills while on the colon cleansing program. It helps it out a lot. And drink lots of water, and juice.

Zumbi2


Whiskey On A Sunday

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:43 am


I was on an Atkins/south beach mix diet, recommended by my doctor for about 6 months. I've lost 70 lbs. I'm still not the picture of health at 315 lbs. but I can walk up the stairs with out feeling like I'm having a heat attack. I've quit that diet and not I'm just watching what I eat and exercising almost every day, the loss is a lot slower but I feel better than I did just eating meat. Now I'm leaning towards a vegetarian diet... not as a diet, but as a life style.
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