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Sl1pstr3am2010

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:41 pm


So, as far as I'm aware, people have their own choice yes? Though some people believe that Video Games diminish the youth of today. Honestly I don't buy it. It does make sense where they are coming from but if those OLD people would've had games like we have today, and this happened to them, they'd be where we are and against it all the way. Things change, you can't stop change.

Honestly if a person is dumb enough to copy some random violence in video games then they were already messed up before they started playing the game. They do have ratings on them like MATURE or TEEN so people know what kinda content they have. And parents, if you don't want your kids playing games like GTA and stuff like that then DONT go out and buy it because they say well Timmy down the road has it. Honestly everyone has their own choice.

TV violence, honestly, is stuff we see at school or on the road any day and can happen at any time. It's already happened, otherwise how would they come up with the stuff. The FCC controls what can go on TV, they can control what goes into productive material as well, such as games. Everything has a rating, it is there for a reason.

I myself play GTA, I'm not violent, I may have a mean streak inside of me, but you really have to piss me off before you see it, I don't just go out and randomly hit people. I've been watching rated R movies since I was like 13, yeah some are worst then others, but they still went into theaters, which have a big control on what they themselves can show. I just say it's a person's choice, if they want to watch it then let them, if they want to play the game to get some stress out, then let them. If their mental capacity makes them go out and do random stuff copying what they've seen then their mind isn't all straight.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:52 pm





It's true we have freedoms. Sometimes too many freedoms. But that's a different discussion thread.

#1. Parents need to be responsible for their kids.

When things go downhill with children parents want to blame anything else but themselves. Violent video games is an easy target. But I ask you this. Who BOUGHT the video game in the first place? Who GAVE the child the money to purchase the game if the parent didn't buy it? Who doesn't even take the time to make sure their child is following game ratings? Who didn't teach their child the difference between reality and fiction?

That's right. Parents.

#2. Violent video games happened upon and played by the wrong mind can cause real violence.

Now before you get your Umbrella Corp undies in a bunch let me explain.
When parents fail to be responsible for their children and when society fails to be responsible for it's community in educating children a neglected and/or abused child who plays violent video games for days on end will develop unnatural violent tenancies. Warning signs are always there if you are looking. When all you see all day is violence you become desensitized to it. It starts to become the norm to you.

Now adults on the other hand are different. You are responsible for yourself.

I was married to a person for years who was never violent. After two years of non-stop violent video game usage he began to crave the virtual kill. If someone ticked him off he wasn't happy until he logged on and beat up a virtual homeless person with a crowbar.

I am NOT trying to say this happens to everyone. But violence, no matter what the form negatively affects you in some way.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:18 am





Does no one want to debate this? emo


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:17 am



In my opinion... I think video games help pass along violence to the youth, but not necessarily the main fuel for it. Violence can spark from just about anything; bullying, trouble at home, school, friends, etcetera.

Parents are to be blamed, because yes... there are warnings on the case of the game itself, and you can probably be sure that the cover has some form of malicious picture. But, I don't think the parents should harbor the entire blame. A lot is given to them where it is deserved, but could they be ignorant as to how their child behaves? For all they know their child does amazing in school, passing all their classes and acting normal. Maybe they're thinking "Hey, my child is a good kid. No need to worry about this."

They have that right to. It's a treat for the youth to be given some form of reward when they've accomplish something. Rewards happened with me, but not with video games. As long as I kept all my grades passing, I was allowed to have my lip pierced, though my mother wasn't too happy about it. She did let me get though because I proved to be a good kid. I'm not saying I'm misleading my mother in any way. I just think these kids have a part of the blame as well. They talked their parents into getting the game somehow. They proved to them that it would not be bad. I believe both parties should be equally blamed.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:31 am





I do agree that ALL the blame cannot be put on the parents. However... If you are doing your job as a parent and are actively involved in your child's life you should know enough to know when they need help or attention.

And of course, children/teens have rights. But there is a difference between a RIGHT and a REWARD.

Video games aren't rights, they're rewards. And who would reward their straight A student with a R or NR video game? Not someone I'd trust MY child with.

Okay, so say your kid REALLY wants that R video game. Let them have it as a reward, but make sure they aren't playing it in every waking spare moment. Explain to them the difference between reality and fantasy.

And if you see their behavior changing, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

EVERY time yous ee one of those school shootings it's always "Oh, he was such a good, quiet child... We NEVER thought he could be capable of this."

Well, turns out, EVERY time that the parents don't really know their children. They never have time for them, they ignore them, they don't set boundaries, there is no discipline, no consequences.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:39 am



I suppose it depends on different parents when rewards are given. The parents trust their child enough to expect them to be mature. They're showing that they can be responsible, and with that, they're granting them more permission, also depending on the kid/teenager (their choice of reward). Of course, kids shouldn't be introduced to violent video games; I'm saying this for teenagers who are able to get access to the games and are of age to play them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:59 am





Well, you have to show ID to purchase rated M games (usually). So SOMEone is buying these kids M rated games.

At least be responsible for them if you are giving them M rated games.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:03 am


Older people want to blame the rise in violence on video games, probably partly because of shock. I mean compared to the games that they grew up with, our games are hideous, maybe. Also blame also needs to go to the parents, not only because they bought the game, but also because they need to teach their kids the difference between what is morally right. Just because you keep your kid from playing the game, they're still going to hear about it from their friends, or see skits for it on youtube, or heck what about news violence?. But if you teach a kid that its wrong to kill people and then explain to them the difference between a game and real life, then it won't matter how violent a game you buy them, its just a game.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:34 pm


ok look everybody loves video games. I think it increases the violence and mischeif in the world I mean they either get from their video games, their enviroment or tv. Down with electronics up with boks
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:01 pm


Ok, it is time for an old person to weigh in on this issue. I am really close to 40 years old, and my son just graduated from high school. I bought him a number of games that were rated M or T when he was younger. Here is the catch, I played every one of those games before I let him have them. That way I knew what was in them and what to expect. I also taught him right and wrong and that you can't act out video games in real life. He turned out just fine. The violence in these games didn't inure him to the violence around him as some critics allege. He is more aware of his surroundings and more sure of himself. Plus, we had (and have) a lot of fun playing video games!

So Crystalsmuse et. al. is absolutely right. Good parenting ( or even half-assed parenting for that matter) can counteract much of the bad influences that children and teens are faced with. If we as parents prepare our children for the world and all its influences (good and bad), they will growup mostly happy and mostly well adjusted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:51 am


I dunno if anyone has said it but im sure they have but im a mother of 2 young children ages 5 and 3 and im 22 years old.

If its something i don't like or don't agree with I wont let them watch it plain and simple.

Like my 5 year old asks me all the time if she's old enough for Hannah Montana or High School Musical i tell her no and you never will be. It's just a show that i honestly dont agree with because of the content.

Same with video games We don't own a gaming platform of any kind other than a pc and i hardly allow them on it but when i do they play education fun games that i buy at the store and Not online last thing i need them to do is push a wrong button and she pull up content that is to mature for her age.

They only kinda games she plays is the education ones i bought her a Vtech VMotion for christmas so she could play video games and move at the same time so shes not on her butt and all the games for it are all fun and educational.

Although i must admit i do occasionally live the tv or cartoons on to much but im sure im not the only one.
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