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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:15 pm
ahhhhhh can we just get this trial done with!
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:48 pm
Considering we don't have our leaders present I will perform whats called a 1 on 1 trial. It will be quicker and more over we can decide quickly what the punishment should be.
According to the Forsaken Wolf Riders leader you have PM'd insults to their clan with serious threats in which lead to the acts of war. After discovering though that the Forsaken Wolf Riders was our ally you have stopped the PM's due to instruction by me as well set out to uphold an apology. Now as we can see here it is a two way swing in some cases. You caused a threat to an ally, but did not know that they were an ally. Now in some cases we can say that this is not your fault Yarg, but in some cases it is your fault due to what has been proposed. You, as a Dark Wulf, should know that acting before observing is a dangerous path. By "observe" is by knowing and what this means is that at the time when all of the allies have been accounted for you should have gone under the forums to see who they were before going out and seeking trouble. In this manner for you not to know can prove an innocence, but not likely to get you out of being guilty for this may lead to being more guilty than innocent. Now before I continue how do you plead?
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FF Turk_Panto Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:34 pm
Pantomime13 Considering we don't have our leaders present I will perform whats called a 1 on 1 trial. It will be quicker and more over we can decide quickly what the punishment should be. According to the Forsaken Wolf Riders leader you have PM'd insults to their clan with serious threats in which lead to the acts of war. After discovering though that the Forsaken Wolf Riders was our ally you have stopped the PM's due to instruction by me as well set out to uphold an apology. Now as we can see here it is a two way swing in some cases. You caused a threat to an ally, but did not know that they were an ally. Now in some cases we can say that this is not your fault Yarg, but in some cases it is your fault due to what has been proposed. You, as a Dark Wulf, should know that acting before observing is a dangerous path. By "observe" is by knowing and what this means is that at the time when all of the allies have been accounted for you should have gone under the forums to see who they were before going out and seeking trouble. In this manner for you not to know can prove an innocence, but not likely to get you out of being guilty for this may lead to being more guilty than innocent. Now before I continue how do you plead? inasent
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:31 pm
hmph... this is quite a problem, yarg, im not sure whether i should possibly apoligise for you, and pay the money to forsaken. or have you expelled from the clan. Now, how are you innocent, tell us the whole story from your POV.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:40 pm
WillPalro hmph... this is quite a problem, yarg, im not sure whether i should possibly apoligise for you, and pay the money to forsaken. or have you expelled from the clan. Now, how are you innocent, tell us the whole story from your POV. i was on an assassination mission i was paid for when i got a pm they wanted a few people dead i was speaking for them but there leader was wrong i didn't keep sending threats i asked who the alliance was because i thought i saw the persons name before so you tell me i look into the guilds and i saw her name so now I'm here because i dint do the research and I attempted to assassinate a fellow alliance member and i take full credit cause i knew the whole time the girl might be an alliance but they should have told me what guild she was in before i struck.....
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:58 pm
hmmm... Well it'll be difficult, but me and Panto will chat to the leader for you. I'll probably end up paying a fine for you, but lets see, rest easy over it, right now, i'll PM him and go to bed. (i'm shattered and here in England it's about 11 'O' clock, seeya Dark Wulfs
I'll be back tommorow
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:04 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:46 pm
I see Will has come into the picture. Your punishment may not be a charge, but as Will said we are going to discuss as well the leader of the Forsaken Wolf Riders is speaking to me about the girl's point of view who has received your threat. I understand that you may have not known where she was from, but Dark Wulves do research to discover who the members are. As well I'm bringing up the point again that acting before observing is a bad path. You need to learn of this. On that note, before a punishment is issued we need to discuss this mission. This assignation mission paid you to not identify our little mystery person. Now after me questioning you you decide to stay with what you gained instead of what you should have said. This is a case of treason possibly. Reason being is that whoever paid you may have been an enemy to our ally in this case making you work with the enemy. Now we can forget this whole treason bid if you simply tell us our culprit who paid you to assassinate an ally. In this case your punishment may be a little less worst than it can be now. Trust me I understand the loyalty to a promise, but this type of promise is indeed one that needs to be broken.
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FF Turk_Panto Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:36 am
Pantomime13 I see Will has come into the picture. Your punishment may not be a charge, but as Will said we are going to discuss as well the leader of the Forsaken Wolf Riders is speaking to me about the girl's point of view who has received your threat. I understand that you may have not known where she was from, but Dark Wulves do research to discover who the members are. As well I'm bringing up the point again that acting before observing is a bad path. You need to learn of this. On that note, before a punishment is issued we need to discuss this mission. This assignation mission paid you to not identify our little mystery person. Now after me questioning you you decide to stay with what you gained instead of what you should have said. This is a case of treason possibly. Reason being is that whoever paid you may have been an enemy to our ally in this case making you work with the enemy. Now we can forget this whole treason bid if you simply tell us our culprit who paid you to assassinate an ally. In this case your punishment may be a little less worst than it can be now. Trust me I understand the loyalty to a promise, but this type of promise is indeed one that needs to be broken. I'll have to agree wit panto here, could be treason, just tell us who told you to assasinate them, unless thats a lie too...you might as well tell the truth, its only gonna get worse.besides, if you are to EVER assasinate someone, you must first conult me,Alexei or Panto or any other Assasin admin if you are.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:36 pm
WillPalro Pantomime13 I see Will has come into the picture. Your punishment may not be a charge, but as Will said we are going to discuss as well the leader of the Forsaken Wolf Riders is speaking to me about the girl's point of view who has received your threat. I understand that you may have not known where she was from, but Dark Wulves do research to discover who the members are. As well I'm bringing up the point again that acting before observing is a bad path. You need to learn of this. On that note, before a punishment is issued we need to discuss this mission. This assignation mission paid you to not identify our little mystery person. Now after me questioning you you decide to stay with what you gained instead of what you should have said. This is a case of treason possibly. Reason being is that whoever paid you may have been an enemy to our ally in this case making you work with the enemy. Now we can forget this whole treason bid if you simply tell us our culprit who paid you to assassinate an ally. In this case your punishment may be a little less worst than it can be now. Trust me I understand the loyalty to a promise, but this type of promise is indeed one that needs to be broken. I'll have to agree wit panto here, could be treason, just tell us who told you to assasinate them, unless thats a lie too...you might as well tell the truth, its only gonna get worse.besides, if you are to EVER assasinate someone, you must first conult me,Alexei or Panto or any other Assasin admin if you are. I'm sorry but i can't tell you it was part of a contact in witch i can not brake but i will tell you this i was forced to agree to it.....
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:55 pm
im sorry but thats not good enough. we need to know who told you to do this, unless it was you, and your trying to cover it up. Yes? Tell us the truth, please otherwise, you may have to pay a fine to the clan, me and forsaken wolves and face expulsion. your choice.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:44 pm
WillPalro im sorry but thats not good enough. we need to know who told you to do this, unless it was you, and your trying to cover it up. Yes? Tell us the truth, please otherwise, you may have to pay a fine to the clan, me and forsaken wolves and face expulsion. your choice. o.k i will tell you the guild that payed me was the wolf dragoons, i can't tell you were there base is or names cause i dont remember but that is there guild......
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FF Turk_Panto Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:07 pm
That's actually a good amount of info. we need Yarg. So, I think we can drop your treason punishment, but your punishment for the other case with the Forsaken Wolf Riders will have to be debated upon. I think Will's idea about a fee might just do it, but in other cases it is up to the leader of the Forsaken Wolf Rider Clan too.
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