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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:32 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:59 am
Did she win? All I can find is that she placed seventh.
I think she's very pretty, though. And she has a great body, I would say it is the full package. I'd love to look like that.
I would say that I consider size 8 plus-sized, depending on one's size, but if she's on the show she's probably taller than 5'8", so she wouldn't be.
However, since I've looked into plus-sized modeling I know that a size 8 is generally what they're looking for in a plus-sized model. Somebody size 8 and 5'8"+ So she technically fits perfectly into plus sized model standards.
I don't get why you're coming off as she's trying to steal the plus-sized limelight from the "fatties", though. Honestly.
I would be more upset that the industry uses models who are below the norm as the examples for their clothing. Not mad at the one girl on the show who is coming in at a basically normal woman's size and saying "Hey, I'm going to compete against all these girls who are ridiculously skinny, and I'm going to do the best I can to show you don't have to be a stick."
Marilyn Monroe was not plus-sized, she would have been able to be a plus-sized model at some point in her life were she alive today, but even in her time she was not considered plus-sized. Fat people embrace her, and claim her as plus sized, though. All because she's a bit curvier than modern celebrities. I suppose that makes her a poser, too. Or does that just mean there is something seriously wrong that women that are healthy and normal sizes are considered too fat for thin people but also too thin for fat people?
An excerpt from an interview of Ms. Cunningham's I found:Quote: Adversity?! Absolutely not. I don't think people understand that I am a regular woman. I wear a ten for God's sake. It's so funny because people come up to me and they say, "Wow, you're not fat at all? You must have lost a lot of weight." I think I just came off looking heavier on TV...that, or people just had a distorted perception of what I should look like in person. As a matter of fact I'm about 10 pounds heavier than I was on the show now and people can't believe how "normal" I look. But that was my aim in going on the show, that a normal woman can actually have a place in the industry. She doesn't have to be a size 2 nor does she have to be a size 18. I would more expect her to be pissed to be having to call herself plus-sized. She calls herself a normal woman, though, but a plus-sized model.... so she isn't posing, it's true. Size 8-12 is typically plus-sized model material.
I've also seen enough smaller girls who think they're plus-sized when they aren't, because they have a few extra pounds, and they've joined groups like this one. So the definition of plus-sized is getting more and more vague, and making it a number on your clothing or a certain amount of fat rolls seems pretty damn stupid to me. I've seen size 8s who insist they aren't plus-sized because they're 8s, when they're also 5'1"... I'm sorry, for their height that would be plus-sized. I get tired of seeing girls, and I've even had people tell me this myself, who don't have enough fat rolls to be considered "fat enough" for whatever reason, to call themselves plus-sized.
I would worry less about her pant size and more about the message she's putting out there. That it's ok not to be stick-thin.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:08 pm
The way I see it is, to a normal person she isn't plus sized, but in the business, it is. It's sad, but unfortunately, seeing as how whoever runs the entire modeling industry hasn't walked down the street and seen some real people lately, this is as good as it will get for a while. She is bigger than the norm, she is beautiful, and as offensive as it is to be calling her plus sized, this is a start.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:32 pm
In the modeling world she is plus size. i guess you have never notice this when looking in plus size magazines and the such but plus size models are her size. Lets look at the industry, a normal model is a size 0-2, so an 8 would be plus size, relatively speaking. So no she is not a wannabe. i have never used the word before but i believe this constitutes as someone hating. It may not be as big as a step you want society to take but its a step.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:45 pm
I don't know about you guys but when I go out to the local neighborhood mega mart the signs for plus size womens clothing states like a 24 and up or something. Relativity has nothing to do with it. Models are absurdly skinny to the point where I worry they might fall through sewer grates, though it wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen.... XD Seriously though, even an 8 in my opinion is small even too small if I may. If your pants aren't in the double digits go eat a damn wedding cake XD
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:20 am
Plus size clothing generally starts at a size 12, not a 24, or I wouldn't be plus sized as I'm a 20=22 in various clothing. And a 14/16 uptop, if not XL in regular women's stretchy clothes.
Models are skinnier than the people they're trying to sell clothes to. It has always irked me that a woman who is taller than me and a size 8 is who the clothing companies use to sell me my clothes. However, with the point of this post I don't see how the lady was claiming she was plus sized, beyond plus-sized model. Which are two different things.
And like I've said before, I've seen some women who are 5' or so who wear a size 8 and are clearly overweight like I am, but claim just because they're a size 8 that they aren't plus sized. I guess technically they aren't plus-sized, but now plus-sized is used to describe overweight, it seems.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:24 am
Plus-sized has seemed to have become a "kind" way of telling a friend that they are getting bigger. I admit to have fallen for this rouse myself. But the worst is when you see the clothing catalogs designed for women who are larger than the average plus size and some skinny little tart is wearing the cloths. that jsut seems so wrong.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:04 am
Wasn't it THIS Whitney that one cycle 10?
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:17 am
It definitely wasn't the girl she posted photos of, 'cause she only placed seventh.
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