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Requiem Dare

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:26 pm


One of the things I find most annoying are those people who buy horses and then never ride them. I board my horse, Dakota, two and a half miles away from my house so I get to ride him relatively often, as long as it's not freezing cold or raining. There are several horses at the barn though, at least four of them, that I know never get ridden. The first two belong to a family that I've seen around before. They came over quite often last year, when they first got the horses. I haven't seen them since last summer. There was a woman that was convinced that she had to pet her horse, give her treats, and make her like her before she rode the mare. That's all good and well, but she really needed to be teaching that horse to respect her. She had a husband and a son that came around too. Her husband got their other horse. He bought it just because it was prettier than the other one they saw that day. There was another woman that came with them. I'm not sure if she was the first woman's daughter or what, but I only saw her two or three times.

The other two horses' owners I've never seen. I have never seen these horses under saddle by anybody, and I've never even seen any signs that they have been worked, like sweat marks on their backs. These two are out on pasture right now, which is more than I can say for the other two. The first two are in small runouts. They're just a covered part similar to a stall with a narrow strip to come outside. They have no room to run at all. I mean, if somebody isn't going to ride the horse they should at least let them have a space to run, like a pasture or larger pen. It's just not fair for the horse!

Do any of you know people and horses like this? Or is it just my area?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:21 pm


I was actually surprised about this issue- at my old barn which just did some local low level hunters had a couple people there who just owned a horse to say they had one. I was there for at least 6 years, I worked there for 4 of them and I can count on one hand the times I've seen some of the owners- or their children physically at the barn.
At my new barn there's an older couple who owns 3 of the stallions and I believe just bought two more. These folks are pretty wealthy even by the Arab world standards. I expected them to be the sort that would buy them and leave them in pasture (like in your situation) but every time when I got out I seen them riding or watching the trainer ride their new stallion (he's a bit of a brat and has only been backed a handful of times since he's only four).
There is one girl like that though. Her parents just bought her a new mare- this mare was owned and showed quite successfully by two twins who graduated and went to college. They drove 2 hours to get to the barn only for the girl to feed carrots to her and drive away. This mare is an amazing hunter, goes nicely on the bit, caries a good frame and this girl doesn't ride her. My trainer was complaining to be about it but there's nothing she can do but encourage the girl to ride. The mare's price tag was I believe 25, 000.

I found it amusing that it was more prevalent in my lower level barn then in my ritzy, expensive show barn where I'd expect the snootier clients to ignore their horses.

GreenePony


Trite~Elegy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:48 pm


Both my trainer and the Arabian stables by my house make sure the horses are being worked. Usually by using them as lesson horses.
Yeah, both have horses boarder with them that the people never show up and are never ridden by the owners.

It irritates my trainer so much. She waited 20 years to save up enough money to buy & import her two selle fracais mares from france, and she has teenage clients who just point at a horse and regardless of the price, the parents buy it for them & then THEY DO NOTHING WITH THE HORSE!
So what does she do?
She has a few others girls and me ride them. lol

It irks me too to have horses and do nothing with them. For two reasons mainly, one - because I don't even have my own horse! gonk Two - if they do not care for the horse in the first place, they're not going to care for it if something happens, say a birth or death in the family that makes them no longer able to keep the horse. They're more likely to sell it and sell it fast, per say at an auction. And since the horse wasn't trained or ridden, what's to keep them from going to the slaughter house?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:22 pm


OMFG I HATE PEOPLE WHO USE HORSES AS LAWN ORNAMENTS!!!! ESPCIALLY REALLY NICE ONES!

stargazer42


Pianoangel1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:20 pm


i know what you mean. its like, everywhere out here in socal. but at my barn, people pay more to have the horses ridden, so we don't have alot of horses who don't get out at least twice a week at my barn, which is nice.

What i really hate is people who buy these really expensive horses, but never ride them, they have others ride them. Or the parents who buy their children really expensive, nice show ponies, and the kids don't even have to tack them up, or care for them. they show up. ride, and hand off to the groom. that PISSES me off. If i had a horse, i would be around it sooo much and caring for it, that it would probably get sick of me!....i also hate how those kids never carry any of their own s**t. you see the mom or dad carrying saddle, pads, cookies, helmets, bridles up the hill, obviously needing help, and the kid just walking up beside them. i HATE that. they need to care for their own stuff!

if you buy a horse, you should be the one caring for and riding it. if you can't handle that. dont get the horse!

haha sorry. i feel strongly about this particular subject... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:42 pm


I understand where you guys are all coming from, and it does really irk me to see people that don't ride their really fancy horses. I hate seeing the owners that really do want to ride, but because they're price limit was really high, they got something really fancy and they're not capable of riding it (those super-fancy horses are NOT easy to ride. In any way shape or form!) so although they intend to come out and ride and all, they just trickle off. The good part of that is, I usually get to ride their horses when they decide that they can't anymore. biggrin But it seems rediculous to spend the money on a horse and never do anything with it.
And yeah, the show brats bother me too. Partially because I DID work for my horses. I boarded a self-care barn that was $120 a month for 4 years before I swore never to set foot in there again (I still blame them for Griffin's lameness. If they'd kept their pastures better...). The only time my parents would do any of my chores for me (short of helping with hay... I was 12, and weighed about 90 lbs. I had a bit of trouble stacking bales that weighed more than me...) was if I was so dead sick I couldn't get out of bed. And once I was better I had to make up for the fact that they had done those chores by doing more around the house for a week. Once I moved out of that barn, I kept my horse at a barn owned by some friends of my family who had no interest in horses, just happened to have a barn with indoor and outdoor arenas and 25 acres of beautiful pasture on the property that they owned. There were three other horses in the barn, and because they knew me and trusted me, gave me a deal that I would only pay $50 a month board if I acted basically as barn manager. So I learned about irrigation, pasture rotation, teaching other boarders to follow pasture rotation, and all sorts of other fun things. I moved him to a full care facility the last 4 months or so that I had him just because it was a larger barn and easier to market him from. So the people who get everything handed to them on a silver spoon do get on my nerves. I've worked for everything that I have as far as horses are concerned. And if you put enough work into it, you'll eventually get somewhere. Maybe not where you wanted to be, and not as fast as you may have hoped, but you'll get somewhere. I got offered a full-time staff position 3 days in to my internship this summer BECAUSE I'm so used to having to work my a** off for everything that I've become a workaholic when it comes to the horse world. It pays off in the end. Trust me. smile

But, as much as all of this annoys me, as long as the horse is being cared for, and is healthy, I'm not too upset. Having spent the time that I did in self-care facilities where the barn manager comes around once a month to collect board checks, I've seen some pretty aweful situations. Serious neglect. Serious abuse. One of the reasons I lost faith in the ASPCA when they told us that all they could do was educate the owners who only came to see their yearling filly ever 2 to 3 weeks IN A SELF CARE BARN. She lived in her stall, they didn't have any hay or grain to feed her. And if we hadn't all been such bleeding hearts she would have died of starvation or dehydration or from the sheer fact that her manure would have reached up to her elbows.
Eventually one of the other girls convinced them to give her to her on a free lease, and she got so much better. Then they took her "home", wherever that is, and when Jess finally found her again she had chronic string-halt in one leg because when she'd gotten herself tangled in barbed wire and it severed a nerve (or something... I should know this.), not to mention that her bones were sticking out at sharp angles everywhere. You could count her ribs from across the pasture.

So, if someone just isn't riding their horse, yeah, it bothers me, but not too much. Because at least the horse is getting cared for. I guess I've just seen it be so much worse... it's hard to get upset about someone just not exercising their horse as much as they should.

AriaStarSong


Pianoangel1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:50 pm


i completely agree with that. my barn is really great in that they don't let horses suffer from neglect or not being ridden or anything, they make sure that horses boarded at the stable get out on a regular basis, and the lesson horses always get at least one to two days off because they work so hard. i guess we're not a "self care" barn though. haha.

i just don't like it when kids are in the sport for like, a couple of months, and the parents just buy them a horse, and then don't make sure the kid learns resposiblity of owning said horse. they don't have to be doing everything, cause they are kids. but they should AT LEAST tack up they're own horses, or groom them. it just annoys me when they don't. i dunno why, it just really gets to me that the people as riders aren't getting to know their partner....

but as you said, as long as the horse is healthy, its not really a pressing issue. just something that bugs me...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:53 am


Do any of you guys remember last year when I told you about this lady and her friend that whipped her miniature pony? Well, the friend had two horses and she came around to feed them and clean their stalls. I don't exactly board at a self-care stable, they feed, water, and clean the horses' stalls if they're not outside and if they are outside they're fed and watered and have their pens scooped out by farm machinery when they need it. She decided she wanted to save money by doing the work herself, which is fine, as long as you really do the work. She was doing it last summer, but once winter rolled around I guess she didn't want to come out in the cold and clean her horses' stalls. Ironically, this is the same person who keeps her house at like, 53 degrees year round. Finally she told the barn owner just to go ahead and feed them hay, but the stalls didn't get cleaned and they never got grain. The barn owner got tired of it and fed them grain anyway because they were loosing weight, but the stalls were terrible. The barn owner had to threaten to put the horses in run out pens before she actually started cleaning them again.

One of the horses out on pasture, Juliet, was trained for barrels and polls. The people rode her at her old barn and she was amazing, supposedly, but they brought her back and she wouldn't do it. The story I heard was that their daughter got on, did something stupid, got bucked off, and the horse was never ridden again. I guess they're selling her, but the price is to high that nobody is ever going to buy her.

Requiem Dare


Rusticular Cancer

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:13 pm


They're not bicycles, either.

Ultimately, if the owner doesn't want to work the horse, they don't have to.
It's pathetic that people would buy a horse, purely to say they have a horse. But it's better than nothing.

We have to remember, horses weren't made for us. They didn't evolve just so we could use them for sport. Just because someone isn't 'using' a horse, doesn't mean they shouldn't have said horse.

I know plenty of people who have a horse purely for the relationship. And you can see the horse loves them to bits. It's incredible to see. Now, just because they have absolutely no interest in riding, doesn't mean they don't deserve the horse.

Alternatively, if someone bought a horse, dumped it in a field somewhere, and isn't taking care of it at all, then we can complain about it.

There is nothing wrong with owning a horse and not riding. Honestly, I may be missing something here. But it irks me beyond belief to think that some people consider horses vehicles, and nothing else.

I mean no offense here, but Pianoangel1: A horse isn't suffering if it's not being ridden. Neglect, yes. But, not being ridden? No.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:41 pm


i didn't mean suffer in a like, bad term, but suffer in that it umm..happens to them i guess haha. i probably could've chosen a better word than suffer i guess...i mean that they don't umm...i don't know the right word, cause horses definetly don't suffer from not being ridden. but at my barn, we make sure they get excersice. even if the person that owns it isn't riding it, they at least get turn outs to play around and stretch their legs.

haha trust me, i know horses don't need to be ridden. Dakota is plenty happy being ridden or not being ridden. but he does sometimes get cranky when he doesn't get out to stretch his legs or when he doesn't get some attention.

Pianoangel1


Mustang Night Rider

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:32 pm


Love have you ever thought that maybe the horses that are their for some reason might not be able to ride?
They could be lame?


Their are some hores at my barn that their owners never ever come out to even brush them, and that pisses me off.
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