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 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:47 pm
Some miracles were performed for many, such as the multiplication of the loaves and fishes. Others were performed for just one (apparently), such as the axe head floating in 2 Kings 6:6.
Do you think God works these miracles mainly for the benefit of nonbelievers, so that they can understand what a mighty God we have? Or, do you think He would allow personal, unpublicized miracles as well?
I'm not talking about answers to prayers - those happen all the time. I mean the supernatural, inexplicable, bona fide miracles, such as walking on water, calling fire down from heaven or raising people who have been dead and buried.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:56 pm
First Coment! lol
Anyways...
"Do you think God works these miracles mainly for the benefit of nonbelievers, so that they can understand what a mighty God we have? Or, do you think He would allow personal, unpublicized miracles as well? "
Good Question! Rule four "All Question are Good!"
Our purpose in life is to have a personal relation ship with God. If we have that then everything else like the desire to worship God or the desire to Evangelize, comes naturally through that relationship. This does not mean that people who are priests or pastors have a relationship with God. A Dog is a Mammal, But a Mammal is not always a Dog. God uses miracles to have a deeper relationship with people. I have never experienced a miracle personally, but there are many in the OT.
Example, The Ten Plagues. With out them the Isrealites whould have no reason to follow Moses into the wilderness. In the wilderness the Isrealites had to rely on God. Also, In the longer run, without them we would have no Jesus. Jesus can't be born in Bethlehem, when Mary's a slave in Egypt and Bethlehem doesn't exist.
Another more personal miracle, is the example you brought up in your post. 2 Kings 6:6
The man of God asked, "Where did it fall?" When he showed him the place, Elisha cut a stick and threw it there, and made the iron float.
If I was there I would be like "OH....MY....GOODNESS...", Then I would tell my friends. Anyways, I'm going to play Mario Cart with my sister, 'cause shes bored.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:21 pm
Heh, glad I could give you something to chew over. I have more, too!
(response)
Um... ^^;; I'm not able to derive much sense out of your answer. Perhaps you are more of a spoken-word rather than written-word person?
Anyway I know people that are praying for miracles in their lives, and expecting them, and they aren't getting what they think they should get. And after decades of observing this and suffering along with them, I believe that they aren't getting the miracle healings and so forth because it wouldn't be a witness. They are isolated people. God wants them to be healed, and prosperous, and satisfied. But, he also wants growth, and he wants us to be witnesses for him.
Those miracles are supposed to do work. What would happen if Moses had merely noted the burning bush and moved on, without telling anyone except his wife? He would have forgotten it soon enough and there would be no Exodus and all the rest.
There are other reasons, too, of course. Sometimes God wants us to work on part of ourselves first, before he can do any more. Or, it's just not in his will that such a thing happen.
Is that what you meant? =]
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:54 pm
OK, I think I get your Question alot more. And yes,I agree with you. I believe God uses miracles to creat deeper faith in others and to express His glory.
Say, I get into a car crash and I don't die, but I very much should of died. God gets to express His glory and I and others get a deeper faith.
In the long run, Miracles are for others not me, I believe that's why people don't always get what they pray for. Sometimes, we pray for selfish things, and don't rely on our faith.
If I truely believe that Jesus died to pay the wages for my sins and rose from the grave, then I shouldn't need a miracle to convince myself that I can trust Him.
Hope that was more relative to your question,
MICAH
PS Sorry, It took me so long. But, If you want my excuse you'll have to ask for it.
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