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mazuac

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:11 pm




I was wondering, has meditation been proven to be healthy for the body?

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:51 pm


mazuac


I was wondering, has meditation been proven to be healthy for the body?


Physically? I dont believe so.
No, I really don't think so.
Look at Indian 'saints' like Sri Ramana Maharshi. He could barely walk for most of his life, I believe, or he just chose not to. But he was a bloody guru.
Meditation has profound mental/spiritual effects, but I don't think any physical effects aside from maybe a light euphoria are exactly involved with meditation. I could be wrong, so don't quote me on this. ;]

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:01 am


I think it has unseen effects.
It's kind of unofficially proven in medical circles that a patient's mental and emotional well-being often affects the outcome of their treatment, even affects the speed of their recovery. Furthermore, it's fully accepted that your mood can have physiological effects.
So yes, I believe meditation is healthy for the body.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:04 pm


There are, actually. The confirmed physiological benefits are on the brain, of course, but there are other stories that have no scientific backup (but which are inspiring nonetheless).

Brains scans of monks and nuns in meditation have shown interesting things. We know that their prefrontal cortexes are thicker - this is the part of the brain that deals with thinking, problem-solving, memory recall, et cetera. It's also the part of the brain that deteriorates with age and suffers the worst effects of neurological disorders such as alzheimer's.

Monastics in meditation are also able to, through sheer willpower, activate the parts of the brain associated with feeling happy. Without depending on external circumstances, the brain's pleasure zones light up like a christmas tree when they meditate on compassion and kindness.

Meditation has also been shown to decrease the severity of negative emotions. In the brain there are two small organ-like glands called the amygdalae which are responsible for strong emotions like anxiety, anger or fear. In meditation we are taught to label these emotions, call them what they are. Say to ourselves, "this is what anger feels like" and to just sit with that feeling. Talking about what you're experiencing.

In the brain, something remarkable is happening. The activity in the amygdalae decreases when you do this. Not only that, but the right ventro-lateral prefrontal cortex (the part of the brain that deals with thinking in words) becomes more active. So there's this relationship between thinking in words and intense emotions.

There's also a part of the brain which is only known as "area 25." This area in depressed individuals is very active. In normal people, when something sad happens, this area becomes active, but it deactivates after time. In people with depression, this area never turns off. However meditation has been shown to switch off this part of the brain when it otherwise can't be talked down or drugged.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:07 pm


Then there are stories like the one I most recently heard of a woman who went to study vipassana meditation in India. She had been living with throat cancer for a while and had pursued all kinds of treatments, none of which worked. She ended up deciding that whatever time she had left, she wanted it to be well-spent. So she decided to go on a meditation retreat.

On this retreat she had a very difficult time. Every swallow was painful, and she was never sure if she would be able to eat her next meal. All the time there was this lump in her throat that was causing great distress. After three months she found that there were moments in her meditation when she didn't feel like she was suffering the pain of her cancer.

The pain was still there, but it wasn't causing her distress. This small amount of reprieve encouraged her to stay for longer and, after six months, there was a small decrease in the pain itself. She ended up staying a full year and when she left the retreat, the cancer was gone.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:49 pm


Nirguna the Heart
Then there are stories like the one I most recently heard of a woman who went to study vipassana meditation in India. She had been living with throat cancer for a while and had pursued all kinds of treatments, none of which worked. She ended up deciding that whatever time she had left, she wanted it to be well-spent. So she decided to go on a meditation retreat.

On this retreat she had a very difficult time. Every swallow was painful, and she was never sure if she would be able to eat her next meal. All the time there was this lump in her throat that was causing great distress. After three months she found that there were moments in her meditation when she didn't feel like she was suffering the pain of her cancer.

The pain was still there, but it wasn't causing her distress. This small amount of reprieve encouraged her to stay for longer and, after six months, there was a small decrease in the pain itself. She ended up staying a full year and when she left the retreat, the cancer was gone.
That really is not saying anything. No does it say that meditation I what made cancer vanish at all, which it wouldn't. seeing how cancer is a mutation of one cells you have to hold what you say with suspicion.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:18 pm


Nirguna the Heart
There are, actually. The confirmed physiological benefits are on the brain, of course, but there are other stories that have no scientific backup (but which are inspiring nonetheless).

Brains scans of monks and nuns in meditation have shown interesting things. We know that their prefrontal cortexes are thicker - this is the part of the brain that deals with thinking, problem-solving, memory recall, et cetera. It's also the part of the brain that deteriorates with age and suffers the worst effects of neurological disorders such as alzheimer's.

Monastics in meditation are also able to, through sheer willpower, activate the parts of the brain associated with feeling happy. Without depending on external circumstances, the brain's pleasure zones light up like a christmas tree when they meditate on compassion and kindness.

Meditation has also been shown to decrease the severity of negative emotions. In the brain there are two small organ-like glands called the amygdalae which are responsible for strong emotions like anxiety, anger or fear. In meditation we are taught to label these emotions, call them what they are. Say to ourselves, "this is what anger feels like" and to just sit with that feeling. Talking about what you're experiencing.

In the brain, something remarkable is happening. The activity in the amygdalae decreases when you do this. Not only that, but the right ventro-lateral prefrontal cortex (the part of the brain that deals with thinking in words) becomes more active. So there's this relationship between thinking in words and intense emotions.

There's also a part of the brain which is only known as "area 25." This area in depressed individuals is very active. In normal people, when something sad happens, this area becomes active, but it deactivates after time. In people with depression, this area never turns off. However meditation has been shown to switch off this part of the brain when it otherwise can't be talked down or drugged.


Good points! It should be mentioned that the various "stress" hormones of the brain/body will in fact initiate a slow "self destruct" process if the body's exposure is longterm. I don't remember most of the chems off-hand, but cortisol is one of the nasties, and adrenaline/epinephrine is probably another. Various effects include immune system suppression and various consequences due to oxidative stress on the body's tissues (such as accelerated aging and behavioral problems if nervous tissue is damaged). Meditation (as well as other anti-stress practices and anti-depressants) can certainly have a positive role in mental and physical health if it prevents or reverses the effects of chronic stress.

Some Buddhist (and related religious) scriptures speak of positive bodily 'transformations' that can develop in advanced spiritual people, sometimes referred to in terms like "the Golden Body." Since the basic effects of this seem opposite to that of 'chronic stress syndrome' (immunity or resistance to disease, improved energy and strength, pleasant body odor), perhaps there is at least some medical reality to the old tales.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:29 pm


Peace Love And Skate
mazuac


I was wondering, has meditation been proven to be healthy for the body?


Physically? I dont believe so.
No, I really don't think so.
Look at Indian 'saints' like Sri Ramana Maharshi. He could barely walk for most of his life, I believe, or he just chose not to. But he was a bloody guru.
Meditation has profound mental/spiritual effects, but I don't think any physical effects aside from maybe a light euphoria are exactly involved with meditation. I could be wrong, so don't quote me on this. ;]


Keep in mind that asceticism is/was highly regarded by saintly folks of the East (and sometimes West), and that bodily denial, if not bodily mortification, was often seen as a sign of holiness. It did not result from meditation but from severely self-limited diets and sometimes severe physical practices. The saints would generally claim that the meditation both gave them the ability to forgo material pleasures for spiritual ones and sustained their bodies through hardships.

Proxy5


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:35 pm


it can certainly help improve your posture if you commit to sitting properly.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:57 pm


I'm unable to add very much to the conversation of meditation since it's practice it not stressed in the Shin Buddhist tradition as it is in others. What I can say however is that one of the things I learned about meditation is that it is not only limited to the practice of sitting. Any action, any task, or any practice that is committed to by the person performing it can be meditative if the practitioner strives to exist within the moment he or she is doing it. I know such practices such as tea ceremony, caligraphy, flower arranging, archery and I heard once motorcycle maintenance can all be seen as forms of meditation.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:11 pm


mazuac


I was wondering, has meditation been proven to be healthy for the body?


Yes. You may want to read "Hurry Up and Meditate!" by David Michie. The book is mostly about the health benefits of meditation. Michie is a Buddhist, but some parts of the book seem like "hippie" stuff to me, and not Buddhist (not the health parts, because he backed those up with data from studies, but his actual meditation exercises, I mean).
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:46 pm


Personal Experience:

Ok. When i was born, I had a "hole" in my heart, and had to go to the hospital every few months to be checked out and treated. Well, the hole finally closed by the time i was about 6, but i always had trouble doing excessive exercise and had a fairly weak heart [which now come to think of it is probably why i am more of a nerd than a sporty person]. But anyway, when i was around 12, I was formally introduced to Buddhism and the concept of healing meditation and the chakras and all that stuff. Out of curiosity, I tried it. By meditating every day for about a month, I found that my heart was greatly strengthened. I didn't change my diet or amount of exercise, but somehow, that meditation changed it. It also helped with my spinal problem a couple months ago. So meditation, if done properly, really does help.

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