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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:29 pm
Im A Little Pea Tiny Sukitori id also like to learn arabic!!!! razz I might start posting Arabic lessons here in a few months. I'm planning to take Arabic Language and Literature at university, and I've got to study Arabic syntax very well now for the entry examinations. Oh my gosh heart I know someone else in this guild that would love that XD
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:35 pm
I've been trying to practice writing out the Arabic abjad (it's not an alphabet, right?) But I keep finding different variations of the letters (vowel/consonant pairings?) For example, the letter alif is sometimes just a straight line, and other times it has a swirling squiggly over it. And I picked up two different books on Arabic...one is a basic one for kids and says letters like G (which is written as Jiim) are not in the Arabic alphabet. But then what is Jiim?!? Are they just trying to match Arabic up to an English alphabet with very confusing results?
Does anyone have a solid link to an Arabic alphabet/abjad?
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:01 pm
Renaissance Girl 14 I've been trying to practice writing out the Arabic abjad (it's not an alphabet, right?) But I keep finding different variations of the letters (vowel/consonant pairings?) For example, the letter alif is sometimes just a straight line, and other times it has a swirling squiggly over it. And I picked up two different books on Arabic...one is a basic one for kids and says letters like G (which is written as Jiim) are not in the Arabic alphabet. But then what is Jiim?!? Are they just trying to match Arabic up to an English alphabet with very confusing results? Does anyone have a solid link to an Arabic alphabet/abjad? I don't have anything, I thought of Googling it but I'm sure you could have done that yourself, however, if you have any questions I could help you. For example - alif generally, is ا. This is the letter. Arabic has a very curious letter named hamza, which looks like this: ء, and it represents a glottal stop. it has several forms, it sometimes appears on its own, but usually it is carried, if you could say that, by another letter, many people call this "kursi hamza" ("the hamza's chair"), and it can either be alif, waw or ya, as in: أ ؤ ئ. Don't worry, there are very obvious rules regarding what it should look like, but you should absolutely not be concerned with this at this particular point. What you should know - those examples are all glottal stops, while ا - long a, و - long u (or w), ي - long i (or y). When أ occurs at the beginning of a word, but not at the beginning of the sentence, on some cases (again, simple rules, don't worry about it yet), it will appear as آ, which mean it isn't pronounced. I'm not sure what you means about G and jiim... Classical Arabic doesn't have G like in dog, for example, but often they use Arabic alphabet that was modified in order to express this in order to write a foreign name for example, usually it would be borrowed from another language that uses the Arabic alphabet, like Persian. Maybe this is what you meant? I hope this helped instead of confusing you even further... I'm sure I have confused you, sorry.
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:11 pm
Anyone speaking with numbers that describe sounds?
Ena na7ki bet tounsi. Kan famma wa7ed kili ya7ki bet tounsi, a3meli MP! Nefhem kan ettounsi.
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:34 pm
How do you do that? It's really hard to understand this... 0_0 Is this really Arabic?
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:47 pm
I'm a Little Pea: Do you know of any books that have simple explanations like that?
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:40 pm
The system Mushroom Pill is talking about is usually referred to as Arabish, a method of writing out Arabic on a Latin-based keyboard. It's mainly for text messaging, or sending messages on any system that can't handle Arabic characters. There's a Wikipedia article here that explains how it works, and what all the numbers stand in for in the Arabic alphabet.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:50 am
Renaissance Girl 14 I'm a Little Pea: Do you know of any books that have simple explanations like that? Nope, sorry... ): I learnt that in school like 10 years ago and we weren't even studying in English so I have absolutely no idea. Maybe Kimyanji knows though, I think he's teaching it in the States. Maybe I could try explaining in a more orderly fashion though... Sorry I'm not much of an assistance. Reverse - That's so neat! Now I understand a little better... sweatdrop بس, يا مشروم - انا ما مخبرة بهذا الاسلوب... sad مع ذلك, انا فارحة بقيام واحد اخر اللي يحكي عربي هون...! I really hope my pathetic wusta makes sense. 0_0
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:02 pm
Alright, I'll give him a shot ^.^ Thanks, Little Pea! And while I'm at it, would anyone be able to give me a quick translation of this? مرحبا صباح الورد والجوري.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:21 pm
Im A Little Pea Renaissance Girl 14 I'm a Little Pea: Do you know of any books that have simple explanations like that? Nope, sorry... ): I learnt that in school like 10 years ago and we weren't even studying in English so I have absolutely no idea. Maybe Kimyanji knows though, I think he's teaching it in the States. Maybe I could try explaining in a more orderly fashion though... Sorry I'm not much of an assistance. Reverse - That's so neat! Now I understand a little better... sweatdrop بس, يا مشروم - انا ليش مخبرة بهذا الاسلوب... sad مع ذلك, انا فارحة بقيام واحد اخر اللي يحكي عربي هون...! I really hope my pathetic wusta makes sense. 0_0 You're very welcome! Though sadly, my vocabulary is so weak now (I've gone about a year without speaking a bit of Arabic) that I can't put together quite what you're saying. Grammatically I can understand it, I just can't make sense of most of the words. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:36 am
MassuReverse You're very welcome! Though sadly, my vocabulary is so weak now (I've gone about a year without speaking a bit of Arabic) that I can't put together quite what you're saying. Grammatically I can understand it, I just can't make sense of most of the words. sweatdrop It's ok, it's not even grammatically correct, I'm still unable to express myself in proper Arabic. I thought the user who used Latin alphabet for Arabic might understand me, but I'm not very good at this, so that's just a hope. XD
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:25 am
I know hardly anyone is here any more, but in case someone does happen by: I need some help with spelling. I'm using a book from the library that doesn't seem to explain everything and I was wondering if someone could check the spellings of these words and tell me how to spell 'this' (both masc. and fem.): بنت بيت تبن بن بين أنا أنت أنت أم أب ابن أخ أخت زوج زوجة هو هي زجاجا جريدة خيمة نهر حمار دجاجة
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:18 pm
I'd also love to learn arabic!!! If anyone starts teaching lessons, please inform me =D
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:11 pm
Does anyone know of a good book for learning how to form the letters in Arabic? The books I'm using don't show the letters handwritten, just type them out and say "this is it" without explaining how to actually write them properly. I'm thinking of something like the handwriting books from elementary school or the stroke-order charts for Chinese and Japanese learners. When I write, I'm pretty sure some of my letters are totally unintelligible or impossible to distinguish from one another, which is pretty discouraging.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:42 pm
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