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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:54 pm
We hardly see you around anymore KDD. sad
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:24 am
LunarSchemer Kefka-Daisuki-Desu! I fail to see how this disproves Cleris... "My heart's crippled by the vein, that I keep on closing. . . You cut me open and I~ Keep bleeding love." "Aeriths feelings for Zack explains why she acts the way she does around Cloud in FFVII"
How about that one? =D I still say, calling Zack an irreplaceable existence to Aeris is 100% disproving Cleris could happen, since how can Aeris fall in love with Cloud if Zack is irreplaceable? Ex-boyfriends are replaceable, that's kind of the point. If someone is irreplaceable, that means you can't fall in love with anyone else and get a new boyfriend. Pretty straight forward, no? It makes sense that the one guy Aeris tried to replace Zack with, ended up being a messed up version of Zack. Hitting home the 'irreplaceable' idea even more. Trying to replace Zack with Zack. XP
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:44 am
Twindream Ryushikaze Twindream Lol, that was kinda random. xd Our land relative would be the monkey while our sea relative would be the dolphin. biggrin Actually our land relative would be the Chimpanzee or Binobo as they are the closest genetically, so presumably we split off from our common proto-ape ancestor with them most recently. Dolphins are split of from proto-dogs, IIRC.Proto-dogs? Seriously? Man....I guess I haven't learned anything in Biology.... It's not exactly vital to the understanding of the coursework to know the heritage of every aquatic mammal, so it's not surprising you were unaware. Quote: Quote: I heard disturbing info from my sister....apparently dolphins are the only creatures who have....you-know-what for pleasure. xd Quote: Not true. There's man and the Binobo. Oh....thanks for verifying it for me. I was skeptical at first, haha. Balthea I heard it was dolphins too... interesting. I'm calling the "only" part false, not the "Dolphins do it for fun" part. That's the trick with absolutist generalizations. One exception brings the whole house of cards down.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:50 pm
Twindream We hardly see you around anymore KDD. sad Awr, I don't get online that much anymore, I'm kind of out of the loop of the whole LTD, so yeah. I don't think anyone will argue that Zack is replaceable in Aerith's life. He was her first love and what they had was special, but the fact is people move on. Look at FF6, (specifically Tiff cause we both like LockeCeles >: o), do you think Rachel is replaceable in Locke's life? Of course she isn't. We see him searching for ways to be with her again throughout the whole game, but in the end we see he has moved on, (to Celes, Terra, his hand, whatever couple you support). People move on, that is important to remember. You are basing most this off of how cute Zack and Aerith were in Crisis Core, I don't see how something that had happened BEFORE she met Cloud can rule out everything that happened after. What attracted her to Cloud at first was his 'similarities' to Zack, but I think she grew to care for him for who he was. : /
BTW, like I stated before that FF6 parallel was for LunarSchemer cause like VII, 6 is vague to if there even is a canon pairing. >___>
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Truthiness3x4 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:09 pm
Trust me, there's a heck of a lot more to prove that Aeris never stops loving Zack and or ever starts loving Cloud than just how cute Zeris is in CC. XP
Also, FFVI isn't THAT vague. The big difference between Racheal and Zack is that Rachel gives her blessing and tells Locke to move on. So though Rachel will of course always have a place in Locke's heart, her place in his life is being replaced and she doesn't mind. Zack on the other hand doesn't give this type of blessing, and we don't see Aeris ever actually replace him, she just tries and fails (considering the guy she chooses ironically is trying to be Zack specifically).
Plus, the quote doesn't just say that Zack and Aeris are irreplaceable to each other, it says they are the irreplaceable existence to each other. That itself is a bold statement and isn't just talking about something that could be left in the past.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:24 pm
Kefka-Daisuki-Desu! Twindream We hardly see you around anymore KDD. sad Awr, I don't get online that much anymore, I'm kind of out of the loop of the whole LTD, so yeah. I don't think anyone will argue that Zack is replaceable in Aerith's life. He was her first love and what they had was special, but the fact is people move on. Look at FF6, (specifically Tiff cause we both like LockeCeles >: o), do you think Rachel is replaceable in Locke's life? Of course she isn't. We see him searching for ways to be with her again throughout the whole game, but in the end we see he has moved on, (to Celes, Terra, his hand, whatever couple you support). People move on, that is important to remember. You are basing most this off of how cute Zack and Aerith were in Crisis Core, I don't see how something that had happened BEFORE she met Cloud can rule out everything that happened after. What attracted her to Cloud at first was his 'similarities' to Zack, but I think she grew to care for him for who he was. : /
When? She knew Cloud for an absolute maximum of a Month, during hectic times, when Cloud was living via a patchwork psyche. She got that he wasn't himself, but one of her last conversations with Cloud is about how she wants to meet the real him. If she fell in love with the real Cloud, she would know the real him, and not not need to want.
We also know that she acts the way she does towards Cloud because of her feelings for Zack.
That'd be like Locke realizing late in FF6 that he was attracted to Celes because she was so much like Rachel.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:17 pm
Haha, KDD, if you were here then you would've seen all the discussion and quotes from Ultimania relating to that. In conclusion, Aeris still has feelings for Zack because in Ultimania it was proven that Aeris did indeed see Zack in Cloud and that Cloud acted most like Zack.
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