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MarcyME

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:34 pm


lord help me....
im writing a paper on tolkien......
my thesis is going to involve his influence on fantasy literature
eek eek eek eek eek eek
any tips or tolkien websites?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:20 pm


Umm...good luck?

I think the Lord of the Rings epic was the forerunner of the trilogy format--it was so big it had to be broken into parts, but I have no hard evidence to support that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:24 pm


Well, he has a massive influence on fantasy literature. Now this is just pulling it out of my butt, but here are some things he has influenced that I have noticed:

Any elvish language in any book I have ever seen is based off of his notes in all of his books. In several other books I have seen dwarfish and elvish writing that can easily be translated using any of his rubrics. This is influence of the Lord of the rings. In fact, if you have read "Inkheart" the way Mo and Maggie talk to one another without fear of the guards reading their notes is with the elvish language that Tolkien used.

The Hobbit also being an epic story influenced the world with the character "Smog" who is mentioned in several other author's stories. If I remember properly Eragon was one of them when he was trying to name Saphira ( I know for sure that Smog was mentioned in "Jeremy thatcher dragon hatcher" ) As well as several lasting effects on how we view dragons. The whole "good knight to slay the mean dragon" definitely was enhanced by this story.

And if you want to look to the movies, those broke drastic ground on how stories could be told. Each being three hours long a piece, yet being so well filmed that I would watch three hours of that as opposed to the hour of Harry Potter. As well as several new filming techniques came out of these movies, so without this story really we might have to wait a few more years before we got half the new tech for movies that we have today. ( If you have seen those remote controlled pole arms with cameras on the end, those where developed specifically for shooting LOTR, if I remember properly.)

If I really wanted to I could pull more of this out of nowhere. Really with such an easy subject I could go on for at least a page and a half without any research at all.
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:22 pm


Any luck with the paper--or cool sources you'd like to share?

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Red Kasei

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:26 am


I'm actually rather ashamed to say I know very little about Tolkien. What I do know is that he was South African. That, or he based his literature off the valleys and the Drakensburg of South Africa. I'm not sure if that's right, because I'm trying to remember this from years ago...

Try googling JR Tolkien. I'm sure you'll find plenty of information. Wikepedia is even better.
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:40 pm


I don't know if this will be any help to you, but I did a paper about Tolkien a couple years ago. However, mine was about the things that influenced Tolkien himself. So it may be of interest to you. wink

Anyways the biggest thing I found was the influence of Beowolf on The Hobbit. Some sections in The Hobbit are almost indentical to things described in Beowolf. There was alos the influence of Norwegian and I believe Welsh, in the creation of the elvish language.

I would strongly recommend looking in a research library to help. I know the one at my university has at least two shelves of books relating to Tolkien's life and works. I'm sure with a few hours research you could find a lot to help you on your way.

One more suggestion is to look for essaies written by Christopher Tolkien. He has done a lot of post humus publishing of his fathers works, and I believe he has written several essaies about the depth of Lord of the Rings and how his father developped it.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:25 pm


Actually the story of the Hobbit was based entirely on a section of Beowulf. The end of Beowulf's life, where he and thirteen other warriors went to slay the great dragon that plagued his lands. All fled but Beowulf and one man, who became king after the dragon was slain. Sound familiar?
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:37 am


Pick up DnD and look at the races. You got yer orcs, yer elves, her half*cough*hobbit*cough*lings, yer dwarves.
Tolkien has had a huge influence on DnD, which I consider literature (not to mention the massive number of books based on it.))


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