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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:47 am
Hmm...i've been having an issue with this so called ''sweep picking''....i want to learn how to sweep pick because...well its extremely vital for creating and playing solo's... Anyways...right now i am practicing sweep picking by doing major triad arpeggios (im going to mix in minor ones when i get a little better)...and im having a bit of trouble...everytime i try one..it comes out really sloppy...that's where i need help...what's the best way to practice sweeps? Electric? I've heard that its better to practice sweeps with electric guitars with no effects added on so you can hear your mistakes... But just yesterday...a bunch of people that i know personally and that are really really good technical guitarist...tell me its better to practice sweeps on acoustic guitar....so i went searching for one...and i found one... Its pretty beat up...found it on the street..cleaned it up..changed the strings...scratched my name on it (since it already had scratches anyway) and put a sticker on it to cover a small indent... Anyways...i have been practicing with this ******** thing...and it really ******** hurts my fingers! D<....the fret board is made from really hard wood...so its kind of hard switching between strings...but i have been getting better...I have been doing this for 2 weeks now...i check my progress by trying it on electric...it seems like this method is working...but i wonder if its really necessary...DX This comes to my question...what's the best way to practice sweeps? If its not acoustic...then finally i can stop...if it is acoustic...then.....oh well -__-...i must keep practicing on this damn thing (Sorry for the hugeness of the picture..im to lazy to make it smaller) 
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:22 pm
I practice mine on electric. I started on electric too.
Practice with a metronome!
A good thing to do is to start slow like 70 bpm, and once you can get that cleanly and easily every time. Move it up 10 bpms, once it starts getting to where you can't do it, lower it by 5 bpm, or until you can do it better. Repeat with different sweeps and you'll be fine! ^^
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:19 pm
I practiced it every day.
I used a metronome at about 120bpm to start with, and by the end
of the month I was sweeping cleanly at about 400+
I used electric. Acoustic just makes it harder to play, and is usually
unfit for the legato/sweep of... well.. sweeping. since it makes it MUCH more difficult. Though, if You can manage to sweep both electric and acoustic, it's something that not many people Ive seen can do. biggrin
as for other reasons of Acoustic vs electric.
Electrics have a naturally lower action, and lower gauge strings making
it much easier to flow right, and the fact that youd be playing through an amp means you can mute any extra noise as opposed the the acoustics soundhole and making its out vibrations.
but above all, never rush sweeping! ;D
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:13 pm
i would practice it on electric simply because its much easier and after all youre learning, right?
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:00 am
Gazlowe i would practice it on electric simply because its much easier and after all youre learning, right? Going the easy way isn't always a good thing. The Acoustic will strengthen your fingers ALOT faster than an electric. Though, like I said, sweeping sounds MUCH better on an electric.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:47 am
draw straight lines with a sturdy hand up and down a piece of paper and keep your pen on the same line, and just keep tracing it. that's how it should feel when you sweep.
as for your fretting hand, I guess doing it on acoustic would help you build more strength and stuff.
but sweeping, is NOT vital to solo's.
all you need to solo is to know your key, your scales, and put your heart and soul into what you're playing.
sweeping is just a cool way to show off.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:48 pm
Well I wouldn't know too much about practicing sweeps since I got the technique down right on my first few tries. But one thing that helps me to learn a sweep I've never done before is to first learn the frets, and instead of trying to quickly perform the sweep, go slowly at first, like an arpeggio, and gradually speed it up. Don't try to go for a ridiculous speed, either, because then you're just destined to fail. Go at an even pace, yupyup.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:41 am
Good news...i can sweep perfectly now <__<.....i still can't believe it took THIS long....like 2 weeks after i posted this....
But anyways thanks for all the help guys! :3
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:45 pm
William Ragamuffin Good news...i can sweep perfectly now <__<.....i still can't believe it took THIS long....like 2 weeks after i posted this.... But anyways thanks for all the help guys! :3 no ******** way. I've been playing for years and i can't sweep without sloppy tone problems but you can after 2 weeks? sorry, but i want proof. there is just no ******** way >:/
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:36 pm
[ Tre ] William Ragamuffin Good news...i can sweep perfectly now <__<.....i still can't believe it took THIS long....like 2 weeks after i posted this.... But anyways thanks for all the help guys! :3 no ******** way. I've been playing for years and i can't sweep without sloppy tone problems but you can after 2 weeks? sorry, but i want proof. there is just no ******** way >:/ I got sweeping down cleanly on my first few tries after only playing for maybe half a year. Now, after playing for 2 years I'm a whole lot better at it... Point being, it shouldn't be that difficult with the correct instruction, work methods and idea of sweep-picking. I say "Idea" because most people think too much of it simply as 'sweep picking' and focus too much on how they strum, or 'pick', the strings and don't focus on their finger placement(Sloppy fingering leads to guitar strings vibrating unnecessarily after they've been picked and you've gone on to the next one). When you pick it's simply a matter of timing. In fact I find sweeping easier than doing solos because of the simple downward and upward motion of the pick. The trick is, for me anyways, simply to pay attention to where your fingers are and have your pick keep up with the string you're currently on. If it's a sweep that has two notes on the same string, if you're going down from, let's say, the fifth string to the first(As in a C chord arpeggio), simply pick upwards for the first note you strike and then back down for all the rest. If you don't want to do that, you can simply hammer on the note that is on the same string as the one you just sounded, and then continue with the rest of the strings, as well. Like I said, people tend to focus too highly on the "picking" aspect of sweeping when in actuality it's where their fingers are and how well they make the transition from one note to the next that ultimitally defines how well they perform the sweep and how clean it sounds. The only job the picking hand has, as far as I'm concerned, is to keep up with the fingering hand(If not being used to Palm Mute, anyways). And that in intself is easy enough, especially if you can already play solos cleanly.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:48 pm
wow reading this has really helped me in area of sweeping however im finding it hard to get from the 3 string sweep over to the 4 and 5 and 6 lol but I will keep working on. Any suggestions?
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:42 pm
l_Shamrock_l [ Tre ] William Ragamuffin Good news...i can sweep perfectly now <__<.....i still can't believe it took THIS long....like 2 weeks after i posted this.... But anyways thanks for all the help guys! :3 no ******** way. I've been playing for years and i can't sweep without sloppy tone problems but you can after 2 weeks? sorry, but i want proof. there is just no ******** way >:/ I got sweeping down cleanly on my first few tries after only playing for maybe half a year. Now, after playing for 2 years I'm a whole lot better at it... Point being, it shouldn't be that difficult with the correct instruction, work methods and idea of sweep-picking. I say "Idea" because most people think too much of it simply as 'sweep picking' and focus too much on how they strum, or 'pick', the strings and don't focus on their finger placement(Sloppy fingering leads to guitar strings vibrating unnecessarily after they've been picked and you've gone on to the next one). When you pick it's simply a matter of timing. In fact I find sweeping easier than doing solos because of the simple downward and upward motion of the pick. The trick is, for me anyways, simply to pay attention to where your fingers are and have your pick keep up with the string you're currently on. If it's a sweep that has two notes on the same string, if you're going down from, let's say, the fifth string to the first(As in a C chord arpeggio), simply pick upwards for the first note you strike and then back down for all the rest. If you don't want to do that, you can simply hammer on the note that is on the same string as the one you just sounded, and then continue with the rest of the strings, as well. Like I said, people tend to focus too highly on the "picking" aspect of sweeping when in actuality it's where their fingers are and how well they make the transition from one note to the next that ultimitally defines how well they perform the sweep and how clean it sounds. The only job the picking hand has, as far as I'm concerned, is to keep up with the fingering hand(If not being used to Palm Mute, anyways). And that in intself is easy enough, especially if you can already play solos cleanly. i can sweep, but only 3 string arpeggios and mstly strict major/minor groupings, i have friends who can play 5 string dimminished and suspended forms. i wanna do that D:
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:05 pm
[ Tre ] l_Shamrock_l [ Tre ] William Ragamuffin Good news...i can sweep perfectly now <__<.....i still can't believe it took THIS long....like 2 weeks after i posted this.... But anyways thanks for all the help guys! :3 no ******** way. I've been playing for years and i can't sweep without sloppy tone problems but you can after 2 weeks? sorry, but i want proof. there is just no ******** way >:/ I got sweeping down cleanly on my first few tries after only playing for maybe half a year. Now, after playing for 2 years I'm a whole lot better at it... Point being, it shouldn't be that difficult with the correct instruction, work methods and idea of sweep-picking. I say "Idea" because most people think too much of it simply as 'sweep picking' and focus too much on how they strum, or 'pick', the strings and don't focus on their finger placement(Sloppy fingering leads to guitar strings vibrating unnecessarily after they've been picked and you've gone on to the next one). When you pick it's simply a matter of timing. In fact I find sweeping easier than doing solos because of the simple downward and upward motion of the pick. The trick is, for me anyways, simply to pay attention to where your fingers are and have your pick keep up with the string you're currently on. If it's a sweep that has two notes on the same string, if you're going down from, let's say, the fifth string to the first(As in a C chord arpeggio), simply pick upwards for the first note you strike and then back down for all the rest. If you don't want to do that, you can simply hammer on the note that is on the same string as the one you just sounded, and then continue with the rest of the strings, as well. Like I said, people tend to focus too highly on the "picking" aspect of sweeping when in actuality it's where their fingers are and how well they make the transition from one note to the next that ultimitally defines how well they perform the sweep and how clean it sounds. The only job the picking hand has, as far as I'm concerned, is to keep up with the fingering hand(If not being used to Palm Mute, anyways). And that in intself is easy enough, especially if you can already play solos cleanly. i can sweep, but only 3 string arpeggios and mstly strict major/minor groupings, i have friends who can play 5 string dimminished and suspended forms. i wanna do that D: Well it's pretty much everything I've just said. What you're going to want to practice is the arpeggio of the chord you want to sweep in the twelth position(Since it's the same notes as in the open position with a higher pitch). As you continue to practice the arpeggio, gradually speed up your progress. Like I said before, don't focus so much on how you're picking the strings, as you are fingering the frets. Finger placement and accuracy are your first priority in sweep picking. The pick follows. Just keep practicing without letting yourself get discouraged and you should be able to get it in no time.
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