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*Chants to himself* I will not debate, I will not debate, I will be nice, I will be nice.

Damn Lith this is hard to be patient with others. Specially since that other seems to not change a bit after being told that she's going to far out of her authority by telling people what they think and why they don't like somthing when in fact other people don't want to be preached to because they don't have an interest.

Woops sorry I guess chanting dosn't help, but in a nutshell I understand why Laz said what he said. I don't empathize on everything except the annoyance of someone telling you why you do somthing, and having a religion being crammed down, which the latter dosn't really bother me as much because I try to be very tolerant to other's faith.

Lithanus, I do agree with most of what you said about understanding each other. I doubt some of the things Miss flineagle said were directed to others, specially since she seemed to act like it was a fact about what she said instead of a beleif about why people reject christ.

Finally I do agree with flineagle and understand why she dosn't want some one passing out flyers of an opposite teaching infront of her church. As long as she understands that this idea goes both ways. I think if anyone should preach their beliefs in public then it should be at either an area where that kind of belief is preached, at a mall to those who are willing to hear and listen to, or parks and such. If anyone tells you they are not interested then I say leave them alone.

As well this guild is a christian guild and I do beleive people who are christians should be allowed to tell what the BIBLE says whats wrong. Like a similar debate I had, or well tried to have, in the Wicca thread. People who want to become better christians need to know from others what is the right way to follow a christain lifestyle. But Lithanus from what I see also allows discussions and debates over this as well. Not simply preaching and such. Acourse I could be wrong, thats just what I notice, and why I still enjoy coming to this guild.


(I'm reading flinangels second response right away, all of this was before her response after Lithanus. Will post again if I want to address anything.)

Okay finishes reading and yeah I have nothing to disaree with except for the misunder standing I think she had over what Lithanus said about people preaching for the wrong reason. I'm not one of his closest friends, but I'm sure when Lithanus mention that, he didn't mean talking to complete strangers was a waste of time. He ment that you have to have a passion for it. If you do it for any reason except general caring for the other person's salvation, then it is just mindless evangelism. From what I read you do have a general care, but also use that caringness to assume things as being facts that really could be anything.

When I say "lets not have a heated debate" I really just want emphasis on heated. This thread is a debate, I just don't want it getting out of hand.

The way you talk about approaching people flineagle is the what I'm trying to encourage, just as Hart pointed out.

As for my use of know, it was in context of what we believe as those in Christ, because we who are in Christ Know that God is real and alive today. We see Him in so many things and feel His presence. Sure we have doubts at times and we wonder if we really know that what believe is true, but over time many of those doubts are dispelled as God makes Himself known to us in different ways. I understand that you believe differently, and it was not my intention to make you think that your believes not count. I was just letting you know how many in Christ see things.

So do you think we have answered how one should share their beliefs properly?

that would not be okay with the lord jesus. my resoning is that jesus is the only one people should preach about thats is waht it says in the bible. am i not wrong. it says you should only speak the scripture about jesus. i dont think it is right, i mean there are people out there with there own religon

I have to say that I disagree with you Lithanus. I don't think that it is necessary to forge a relationship with someone before you witness to them. I can get to know someone in a matter of minutes, relating in the natural, then swinging to the spiritual. I have evangelized in public places such as the mall, the park, on college campuses, and at the school that I used to attend. I've even considered distributing Christian literature to a Mormon church. Whether evangelism is good or not does not depend upon the number of people that are saved as a result, since false conversions abound. Rather, good evangelism is evangelism that sticks closely to what the Bible says. (and no, im not just talking about your testimony.)

As, for you, my Church of Satan friend, I can't in good conscience tell you to go for it, since someone might actually listen to you. I can say that you have every right to do so. Whenever the gospel message is preached as it should be, people will undoubtedly be offended. And why wouldn't they be? It's like a policeman coming to a group of criminals, demanding reform. The fact that your message would be offensive is not the reason that I think you shouldn't do it.
By the way, could you explain the mating signal spoken of in the 11 Satanic statements? My friends and I find it quite hilarious.

How are you going to tell them what their religion is? You know there is two forms of Satanism right? One that has a outright worship of him and the other, which he explained many times, is a another rejections of all other religions and going by human nature. No worshipping involved.

Yeah, it's been said many times, but I've also said that what you just said depends on how you're viewing worship.
Us disagreeing on whether or not Laz worships Satan isn't going to change the fact that many Christians would find him doing that disrespectful. He can do it all he wants, like I said it's well within his rights. I just don't think that he'd have a lot of takers.