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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:41 am


I'm moving to my grandfather's house, which is all of two-hundred feet away or so. Literally, it's across the farm from my old house. I want to start a garden as we're moving over there soon. The wind blows from the back of the house to the front and I'm in zone 6b mostly (I think). We're close to Lancaster county, PA. [Essentially, the winters are freaking cold and snowy, but the summers are usually hot and too humid and tend to come with storms or drought.]

This is my new house:
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The first one is only in full sun because it is pre-spring. In the summer the ornamental cherry trees are covered in leaves and so the area is in mostly shade. The down side to this is that a bunch of things fall off these trees in fall. >_<

The second is the side of the house, there is shade and sun here, but what you see here is usually the exact amount of shade/sun on the ground. Most of the sun is on a small slope that you can't see in the picture.

Three is behind the house, a little patio entrance is covered in shade here, and you can't see it in the picture. The sun/shade ratio is pretty much the same as in the picture year round. This would be the spot I want, but the wind blows from the woods to the house, which means the garden could be pummeled every time we get a bad thunderstorm (which is frequent in the summer). It is also on a slight slope downward from the house.

Four is more of a continuation to four, it's the sunny part that's on the slope.

I'd appreciate opinions as to which site would be best. ^_^

Also and suggestions for what veggies, fruits, or herbs I could grow here would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:23 pm


It would take a few years, but if you're planning to live at your grandfathers you could consider planting some small trees or hedges to act as windbreaks in the location you want. (or erect a fence..)

The shaded areas would be good for growing lettuces and other greens that don't tolerate the heat and full sun too well.

I'm more inclined to choose 4 because the area appears open and sunny. Taking pictures in winter is hard because you don't get a good idea of the spring and summer.

One idea to help you plan your garden space would be to draw up your grandfather's home and yard like a blueprint. That way you could map out the trees and estimated shade and where the wind blows the most, etc.

You're in the mid atlantic so you can pretty much grow anything. I say tomatoes are a must and summer squashes. Cucumbers are good to grow. Fresh basil and parsley are awesome. hmm I don't know what else. Just grab whatever looks interesting and plant it!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:26 am


Onicoe is right---you can grow almost everything in 6b---I've gardened in this zone all my life, although for me it's Oklahoma and Missouri. So what do you like to eat? The shady areas would extend your growing time for cool-weather crops, lettuces, spinach, and peas---the sunny places will grow everything else, depending on the soil.

This is a beautiful place. If your grandfather is still alive, he may be a little upset at a big square vegetable garden just plunked out in the middle of it. There is an old book, "Square Foot Gardening", by Mel Bartholomew(I think). I have used these planting techniques to get huge yields from flowerbed-sized vegetable gardens. You might want to consider making beds at the base of those evergreen trees, and other areas where they would look like an extension of the existing landscaping. Close planting in small beds really does produce incredible yields, and can blend with the existing landscaping very well. There's nothing to keep you from adding a few flowers into the mix, too, so you can cut bouquets for the house while you pick beans and tomatoes!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:02 am


I agree with the book suggestion. Square foot gardening is a great beginner's book on the subject.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:47 pm


Sorry for the late reply. >_<

Thank you guys so much for the input. It looks like I'm going to get to start planting where you suggested (needed approval from parents/grandfather haha). I've picked up a few herb seeds and see if I can get some more locally before I resort to online. :3

Here I was afraid I wouldn't be able to plant much here. ^_^; I'll definitely see if I can get a copy of that book. Thanks for the suggestion. biggrin
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:30 pm


no problem. please keep us up to date on your gardening! I wish you many many vegetables. [:

btw, Amazon.com is great for getting used books cheap.

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