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Fatima al-Faqadi

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:51 pm


The debate about guns reminded me a of a quote I heard from someone sometime ago (very specific I know xd ) "If guns kill people, then I can blame my pencil for misspelled words" and to add to that, then its my cars fault for speeding and my keyboard's fault for calling people idiots blaugh

The major issue with guns is just education. There is no way to keep bad people from using guns for killing, and if we banned guns it would only make it certain that the unlawful among us had them. But what education limits is many of the accidental deaths, the kids shooting other kids on accident.

But even as such, that won't solve it. A good friend of mine in high school died because his gun discharged into his shoulder while he was cleaning it. No one was home and he was not able to get to a phone to call for help. He had taken all the courses, knew all the do's and don'ts, he just failed that one time to remember to check the chamber. But that doesn't mean all guns should be taken away.

And it doesn't mean we can't have virtual guns in a virtual world. It just means people have to use common sense when dealing with things that can kill. I could do away with someone just as easily with many numerous seemingly harmless objects, but that doesn't mean we need to start removing them from gaia... it just means they shouldn't let me bring them on airplanes biggrin
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:04 am


respect the 2 amendmet

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:38 am


Saying guns kill people is like saying spoons made rosie o donnell fat
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:19 pm


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respect the 2 amendmet


The Second amendment was made to keep the government from becoming a tyranny, monarchy, etc. Military can't come and walk over everyone like they did back then. Now the government has to be a democracy so "everyone has a say" or they'll have a revolt on their hands, and in most cases civilians are better shots than army lol and thus the revolutionists win and more damage would be done than was necessary. Its like the old saying, tho most of you remember it from V for Vendetta, "The people should not be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of its people." Our forefathers established this because they know some sly mother...... would try to take over completely *cough* Obama *cough* *cough* Liberals *cough,* but if they try then the American people have more of a "guarantee" that there rights won't be taken away.
Fatima al-Faqadi has the idea, but to elaborate its the law abiding citizens will be forced to be defenseless while the criminal populace will have a reign of terror, nothing would stop them. So what do liberals decide to do? Make taxes higher for everything, which by the way, still doesn't affect the criminal populace, it just makes us all the more pissed off. If they would take the time to think about it, they would realize they are f*ing retarded. If someone came and robbed them at gunpoint they would harp on this issue even harder to get rid of guns and still not realize that the guy who just robbed them will keep his gun. Liberals are the mental handicap in the government, not saying everyone, just those that try to make things better for everyone, but are in fact making things worse overall, "liberals." I'm starting to get off subject now so I'll stop before I go to far. If anyone would like to have a sociable argument please fill free to PM me, but if you start to get childish and butt hurt I'm gonna call you a liberal and piss you off even more then leave it at that.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:21 pm


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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Seriously, a weapon is just a tool. A neutral, unbiased, metal device. It's the person behind it, and the intent behind it, that makes it evil. Not the gun itself.
Gun bans are pointless and unconstitutional.
And nothing should be censored.
Also, unlike the chap above me, I don't think Obama's going to take total control.
A liberal that wants to have the government in complete control is not a liberal in my opinion. The classic definition of liberalism, before America got its hands on it, was "belief in the importance of individual freedom." Then America spawned Modern Liberalism, which is socialistic by nature, but not communistic. Communism involves a dictatorship; socialism doesn't have to. However, they're too authoritative for me. I like my guns, and don't want them taken away. That's why I prescribe to Democratic Socialism. Yes I'm socialist. So what? They still want complete personal freedom, and that's all I care about.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:57 pm


Communism involves a dictatorship; socialism doesn't have to. However, they're too authoritative for me. I like my guns, and don't want them taken away. That's why I prescribe to Democratic Socialism. Yes I'm socialist. So what? They still want complete personal freedom, and that's all I care about.


If you were an actual socialist you'd know that a true socialism involves absolutely NO leadership. A true socialism has EVERYONE as equals. Money would not be needed, everyone would have what they needed. This will never work, however, due to human nature. Humans need someone to follow, thus meaning others will want to have more than others. Humans are corrupt so we'll never have a perfect society. Read Utopia, it IS the perfect society. The nature of Socialism has been perverted throughout the years, Yes, communism and marxism are socialist in nature, but have completely diverse ideals than what was originally intended for socialism, one of which, having a leader. Closest thing there was to a true socialism were Native American tribes, they had Elders however and depending on what Fancy school graduate you talk to were either "Leaders" or merely there for guidance, each one holds a valid point.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:14 am


lol guns should no doute be alloud even the vary thought of banning them is just enforcing the same changes to this country that is killing it
it all starts off by showing how things could be bad and showing cases where it has gone bad and then well what do you know fkkking retards unite and they all start their marching and debating and soon they get what they want
thats whats happening to christians they push us christians way to far because they believe we may be able to push them if you look at the steps its all the same
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:41 pm


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Communism involves a dictatorship; socialism doesn't have to. However, they're too authoritative for me. I like my guns, and don't want them taken away. That's why I prescribe to Democratic Socialism. Yes I'm socialist. So what? They still want complete personal freedom, and that's all I care about.


If you were an actual socialist you'd know that a true socialism involves absolutely NO leadership. A true socialism has EVERYONE as equals. Money would not be needed, everyone would have what they needed. This will never work, however, due to human nature. Humans need someone to follow, thus meaning others will want to have more than others. Humans are corrupt so we'll never have a perfect society. Read Utopia, it IS the perfect society. The nature of Socialism has been perverted throughout the years, Yes, communism and marxism are socialist in nature, but have completely diverse ideals than what was originally intended for socialism, one of which, having a leader. Closest thing there was to a true socialism were Native American tribes, they had Elders however and depending on what Fancy school graduate you talk to were either "Leaders" or merely there for guidance, each one holds a valid point.


You misunderstood me (I'm not the best with words). I meant the Modern Liberals were too authoritative for me. I already told you that I'm a democratic socialist, and they want equality economically and complete freedom socially. I'm also aware that socialism can do a u-turn and become communism if it's a large enough country. I seem a little more optimistic than you when it comes to human nature too. I have hope that one day people will be able overcome the need to have more than their neighbor. Now I'm going to simply say let's agree to disagree, move on, then get back to the important thing we agree on: people want to take away our guns. This shouldn't happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:23 pm


Sorry mate, Just seen the negative of people since I've been in a populated area, you know the Jody born in the woods? Well its kinda like me, raised in the middle of the Appalachia in WV
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:10 pm


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Sorry mate, Just seen the negative of people since I've been in a populated area, you know the Jody born in the woods? Well its kinda like me, raised in the middle of the Appalachia in WV

卍 The quieter you become, the more you can hear.

No problem. I'm from Ohio meself. ... I forgot what I ways about to say... sweatdrop *shrug* oh well. Probably wasn't important anyway.
And man, I just looked at your profile. Fellow airsoft combatant, eh? Cool. ninja
Also, Semper Fi. I intend to join up soon. Oorah.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:37 am


you can't blame guns for killing same as you can't blame a pencil for misspelled words or a knife for a cut. you need to blame the person who pulled the trigger, thouht wrong, or just moved the knife
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:51 am


lol the people we need guns to defend against are the people that are making it so morons think we shouldnt have guns

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:40 am


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