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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:50 am
(sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I wasn't sure)
I just picked up the quest of the Kara line to go to Heroic Shattered Halls and Sethekk Halls and it got me thinking when the two people who were with me at the time kinda did a double, "oh s**t"...
Which is the hardest Heroic? Which is the easiest?
Earlier in the day, someone said that Heroic BM was the hardest yet a person responded that it was easy and that they couldn't even get to the first boss of Shattered Halls...
So.. how much of an emphatic "oh s**t" should I be saying here now that I have to do Heroic Shattered and Sethekk?
Especially since I've never done a heroic before... yeah, I'm in a Kara group that can down Nightbane (we have twice now, did it first time last week, woot) but I've never done a heroic. lol
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:33 am
FenrisVollmond (sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I wasn't sure) I just picked up the quest of the Kara line to go to Heroic Shattered Halls and Sethekk Halls and it got me thinking when the two people who were with me at the time kinda did a double, "oh s**t"... Which is the hardest Heroic? Which is the easiest? Earlier in the day, someone said that Heroic BM was the hardest yet a person responded that it was easy and that they couldn't even get to the first boss of Shattered Halls... So.. how much of an emphatic "oh s**t" should I be saying here now that I have to do Heroic Shattered and Sethekk? Especially since I've never done a heroic before... yeah, I'm in a Kara group that can down Nightbane (we have twice now, did it first time last week, woot) but I've never done a heroic. lol it really depends on your group. in my opinion BM and shattered ahlls are the 2 hardest but ive yet to try BM heroic. just make sure when u go to a heroic check ure tanks gear. if he has any greens except for maybe a trinket kick him. your tank needs to be as well geared for a raid or at least his first time for a raid in order to do a heroic.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:07 am
BM on normal is already friggin hard, even with a decent group, so I can imagine how hard it is on heroic
Of the few heroics I have done (I only do them with my friends, since I always end up in the worst PuGs) I found Ramparts the easiest, closely followed by Underbog and Blood Furnace. The hardest one I did so far was probably Botanica, but I haven't done all of them yet.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:26 am
Don't worry too much about what other people say. You can't let them scare you because what is the hardest or easiest is an opinion.
A lot of people do think heroic Shattered Halls is tough, but others disagree.
In response to Ven and suicidal, BM can be unbelievably easy (in my opinion anyway) with a good class makeup, decent gear, and decent players. My group has four manned it in nonheroic without a problem (our fifth guy was a pugger who skipped out on portal number one, so we just did it with the four of us). In heroic, we take five people, but not all five even need to pay very close attention. xp So BM might be one of the easiest in my opinion (obviously not everyone agrees, and that's ok 3nodding ). We never wipe on it, and we blow through it pretty fast.
There is one boss in Shadow Labs that can brutal (my opinion again) if your tank isn't really on his toes.
Some fights are more difficult for some classes than others too. For example, some fights might be tough on the tank, but not on everyone else. Or it might be tough on the healer, but downright boring for the tank! Our main tank is bored to tears on Moroes, but being a priest and having to shackle his cronies, I have to be at least kind of on my toes during the Moroes fight.
So I would suggest just going in and seeing for yourself. Maybe what is difficult for some people or some classes won't be difficult for you. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:56 pm
BM is the hardest, sh is a piece of piss if you have a good tank, BM all those adds keep spawning and you get no time to catch yer breath it's just a very unpleasant run.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:09 pm
Rainbow_Blender BM is the hardest, .... BM all those adds keep spawning and you get no time to catch yer breath it's just a very unpleasant run. BM is a DPS check. Ideally, you should have plenty of time to catch your breath and even to sit and drink. The non-elites keep spawning if the portal is open and an elite guy is alive. Once you take the elite down, the little guys don't come out again until the next portal opens. With a decent mana pool and DPS, you can take the little guys and the elite down and have time to drink in between fights. 3nodding So I usually kill the guys, then sit to drink. The next portal often opens while I am drinking. The tank runs to pick up the elite. By now I have had enough to drink, so I start running that way too. That's the way it should work. If a group has a lot of trouble in BM, it usually means they don't have the DPS to finish one portal before the next opens. I think BM is my favorite because it is kind of fast, mindless killing. xp In pretty much everywhere else there are pulls, different things to remember, people to mind control, things to shackle, etc. BM is just kill a guy, kill another guy, kill another guy, etc. xp
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:34 pm
I dunno about hardest, but my LEAST favorite is heroic Durn. ******** that place.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:34 pm
LorienLlewellyn Rainbow_Blender BM is the hardest, .... BM all those adds keep spawning and you get no time to catch yer breath it's just a very unpleasant run. BM is a DPS check. Ideally, you should have plenty of time to catch your breath and even to sit and drink. The non-elites keep spawning if the portal is open and an elite guy is alive. Once you take the elite down, the little guys don't come out again until the next portal opens. With a decent mana pool and DPS, you can take the little guys and the elite down and have time to drink in between fights. 3nodding So I usually kill the guys, then sit to drink. The next portal often opens while I am drinking. The tank runs to pick up the elite. By now I have had enough to drink, so I start running that way too. That's the way it should work. If a group has a lot of trouble in BM, it usually means they don't have the DPS to finish one portal before the next opens. I think BM is my favorite because it is kind of fast, mindless killing. xp In pretty much everywhere else there are pulls, different things to remember, people to mind control, things to shackle, etc. BM is just kill a guy, kill another guy, kill another guy, etc. xp Yeh, BM is ridiculously easy. All you need is a bit of gear and the instance becomes a joke. Out of all the heroics BM is probably the easiest to do and the fastest to run. If you have problems with it, you even get 5 "oh s**t" buttons that do all the work for you. In fact, we use them on the last 5 portals and they TANK the elite mobs, so our tank (usually a druid) goes DPS and we can get them down even faster than before. :p Gogo 3 badges ftw.
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:25 am
I tried heroic ramps a month ago with a tank who, by very nature, ate balls, and we couldn't even get around the first bend without wiping. I'm better geared now but havent had the chance to do any heroics lately. razz
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:15 am
back on my holy paladin, did a heroic durnholde once, we couldn't down the first boss.
heroic ramparts has always been kinda easy for me. did it once with a druid tank and healer, we didn't use any cc at all. he just held agro on everything, i was impressed.
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:29 am
SH & BM are natural Tankadin instances. I'm envious of the stories I've heard about crazy-fast runs for both, where the tank would pull two groups at once in H-SH. >_<
BM is very much a DPS check instance - & I've had runs where the healer was flipping out on me, the tank, as it was taking too long to kill the elites. Ahh-duuurrr.
I'm only ran Heroic SP & Ramps, & need hella CC in both, as my gear is only from normal instances, no Kara stuffs. ;_;
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:23 pm
Heroic mech is easy to farm badges off. Heroic slave pens was also pretty simple. I had an easier time doing it than the one time I PUG'd it on normal.
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