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No Zin, not at all, abortion clinics everywhere are safe!

You're right though. They're not scrutinized as much as doctors in other professions unless they get targeted by some group and that group sends billions of letters, and even then it takes forever for an investigation to be made.

Has it ever struck anyone else that when laws are proposed to better regulate clinics because there ARE unsafe clinics and hardly any pro-choice sites give information on spotting them (though the information I found was on a pro-choice site), organizations like NARAL and PP get upset? It's like they want to deny their existance. Perhaps they don't realize that there are unsafe clinics, and put it down to pro-life lies to scare women, but marginalizing the women who come forward with these horror stories after having an abortion there hardly seems like a pro-choice thing to do. When people are being arrested, when licenses are being revoked and clinics are being shut down for health violations, it's not because those damn anti-choicers are spreading lies, it's because there is genuinely something wrong. You would think NARAL and PP be the first people coming down on this, the first people screaming for regulation, to keep things safe. Instead there is lamenting that clinics are closed and the blame falls, again, on evil anti-choicers targeting clinics to shut them down, because apparently as long as there's a clinic it doesn't matter if it's safe or not, abortions are being done and that's a good thing.

Unsanitary utensils are not the fault of those damn anti-choicers. Dirty bedding is not the fault of those damn anti-choicers. Lack of pre-abortion ultrasounds to determine that everything is safe is not the fault of those damn anti-choicers (Oh wait I forgot, that's medical rape). Doctors that sexually harrass patients are not the fault of those damn anti-choicers. Women being sent home only to end up in the hospital because these things caused them to have serious medical conditions? Again. Not the fault of those damn anti-choicers. There is something wrong with that clinic.

If those damn anti-choicers hated women so much, they'd ignore it and say, "Keep it open, let those murderous bitches get what they deserve." That's not pro-life though, and excuse those damn anti-choicers for caring.

Sometimes I wonder. One person claims that the placenta isn't attached to the uterus in anyway (even though all the books I read and all the sites I went to says it is attached to the uterine wall).

Another says the fetus dies AFTER it is removed as if it died on it's own and that Ru-486 pill is a contraception and doesn't work if you're pregnant (which is wrong. It's not birth control) and said I was wrong, insulted me, and to do my homework when clearly they are the ones that don't know what they are talking about.

The whole ED forum is driving me crazy. How can we have a serious debate when they don't even know all the facts about the side they are fighting for?

Which reminds me of my bullet allegory-

If one is not responsible for fetal death resulting in removal of a fetus, then one cannot be held liable for a shooting. If I shoot a gun, I don't kill anyone, the bullet does. And since the consensual act (of pulling a trigger or having sex or removing a fetus) isn't related to the result (Of a bullet activity or pregnancy or fetal death), I can't logically or reasonably be held responsible for the unintended consequence of a prior action.

Following the same reasoning, at least.