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TheDemonNurse

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:37 pm


Ok a few minutes ago I picked up this pamphlet for my father's church and the have this little section about the Harrisonburg Pregnancy Center. Abortion catches my eyes and so does "In celebration of Sanctity of Human Life Sunday and they're holding an open house (Hopefully my father isn't planning on going there.)

Anyways, while looking the church pamphlet I smell the stink of pro-life and look up the pregnancy center on line and ha ha, I find it:

http://www.hburgpc.org/support/post_abortion/pas.html

Well there is post-abortion support and help on finding adoption agencies

and ********? I find This little snidbit that for some reason really pisses me off:

"How can I convince my girlfriend not to get an abortion? This baby is my flesh and blood...
You are wise to be concerned about abortions. A woman usually makes the difficult decision to have an abortion because she is afraid to face the pregnancy alone or to raise the child alone, especially if she doesn't feel supported by her family or you.

Abortion may seem to be a quick, painless way of dealing with an unplanned pregnancy. However, abortions can leave long-lasting emotional scars, as well as possible physical problems. Abortion ends the life of an unborn child and may cause you and your girlfriend to experience feelings of grief, loss, and guilt.

As the baby's father, you have no legal means of interfering with an abortion, but you can encourage your girlfriend to talk with a counselor at a pregnancy center (1-800-395-HELP) about her options"

Well abortion can have it's downs but where the ******** are the downsides of pregnancy?

And then of course we have our little list of what might happen if you get an abortion:

"Surprise at intensity of emotional reaction
Grief, sadness, loss (especially on the due date of the aborted pregnancy or on the anniversary date of the abortion
Anger, betrayal, bitterness
Guilt
Moodiness, depression, hopelessness
Inability to communicate, express emotions
Frequent crying, crying spells
Troubled relationships
Discomfort around or keen interest in small children or babies
Preoccupation with the aborted child
Sleeplessness, nightmares, flashbacks
Suicide attempts, suicide "

And the only "Help" they offer for abortion is "abortion recovery" which is BIBLE based. No, I don't mean any offense to any christians on here but this "abortion recovery" involves:

"To restore the broken relationships that resulted from the abortion, including one's relationship to God. " And s**t like receive forgiveness from God.

Read the site for yourself and laugh, cry, or get angry....
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:47 pm


There's one in our area? How retarded.

"Abortion may seem to be a quick, painless way of dealing with an unplanned pregnancy."

True, it isn't, but childbirth sure as hell isn't quick or painless either. Post-abortion depression is from the same source as post-partum depression: Screwed up hormones.

They need to get out and be replaced with a real councilling center. mad

Lupine Pyrefly


TheDemonNurse

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:50 pm


Lupine Pyrefly
There's one in our area? How retarded.

"Abortion may seem to be a quick, painless way of dealing with an unplanned pregnancy."

True, it isn't, but childbirth sure as hell isn't quick or painless either. Post-abortion depression is from the same source as post-partum depression: Screwed up hormones.

They need to get out and be replaced with a real councilling center. mad


Yeah, I mean abortion isn't right for everyone and it does have it's risks, and even though I've never had an abortion I know it's not the easiest thing, but they make it seem just so horrible like they're trying to talk everyone out of it....
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:56 pm


We have one of those here--my friend went there when she was seeking an abortion and she almost had a heart attack. Ours might be "lifechoice" or whatever bullshit that is. I can't remember. Let me see...

Here we go: http://www.lifecall.org/cpc/ca.html, "Birthchoice of Temecula."

Luckily, we also have a WIC, and that's where I tell everyone to go, and they were the absolute nicest I could have expected anyone to be when I fell pregnant. I wish they advertised more, but I'm honestly afraid they'd get shut down or protested if the conservatives here knew what they were doing to help women. Because anything that doesn't end in a baby is bad for our community, ya know?

Jazzberry


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:21 pm


Those side affects are ******** pathetic and have to do more with the woman rushing through her decision or outsider pressuring her about her abortion than the actual abortion process. (Pardon the language.)

And you know what, all that and more can happen when your pregnant as well only besides dealing with depression and possibly suicide your chances of being murdered go up as well.

You won't read that in any damned CPC pamphlet though will you?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:04 pm


Jazzberry
We have one of those here--my friend went there when she was seeking an abortion and she almost had a heart attack. Ours might be "lifechoice" or whatever bullshit that is. I can't remember. Let me see...

Here we go: http://www.lifecall.org/cpc/ca.html, "Birthchoice of Temecula."

Luckily, we also have a WIC, and that's where I tell everyone to go, and they were the absolute nicest I could have expected anyone to be when I fell pregnant. I wish they advertised more, but I'm honestly afraid they'd get shut down or protested if the conservatives here knew what they were doing to help women. Because anything that doesn't end in a baby is bad for our community, ya know?
By WIC do you mean that government program that helps women who have trouble paying for basic groceries while they are pregnant or until the kid is school age or are you refering to another WIC?

Streex


TheDemonNurse

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:57 pm


"Effects on Later Pregnancy: Injury to the cervix may cause the early loss of a later wanted pregnancy. Scarring, which blocks your fallopian tubes, may also occur. This can keep you from becoming pregnant in the future. The risk of miscarriage in later pregnancies is higher if a woman has had two or more abortions. "

Ok I've never really heard this one before but is this part about increased miscarriages true? Can someone verify please? sweatdrop


"Death: Death has occurred after abortion, although this is rare. When abortion is done after the first three months of pregnancy, the risk of death increases. The cause of death by abortion is usually from heavy bleeding or from complications with the drugs used for pain."

What exactly are these drugs that they use? Oh and don't most women who die from pregnancy die because of blood loss?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:21 pm


Quote:
The Harrisonburg Pregnancy Center offers emotional, physical, and spiritual support to women, men, and their families facing unplanned pregnancies and sexual decisions.


If they followed through with that, they wouldn't use terms like, "baby", list the risks of abortion while convinently leaving the risks of pregnancy out, and preach about "one's broken relationship with God", now would they?This website crossed my path on a New Year already soured. I am not a very happy Oxy.

Mera Hei

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Lord Setar

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:04 pm


TheDemonNurse
"Effects on Later Pregnancy: Injury to the cervix may cause the early loss of a later wanted pregnancy. Scarring, which blocks your fallopian tubes, may also occur. This can keep you from becoming pregnant in the future. The risk of miscarriage in later pregnancies is higher if a woman has had two or more abortions. "

Ok I've never really heard this one before but is this part about increased miscarriages true? Can someone verify please? sweatdrop


Quote:
Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of such problems as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or congenital malformation (birth defect), and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries. [25]


Source: Alan Guttmacher Institute
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:19 pm


Streex
Jazzberry
We have one of those here--my friend went there when she was seeking an abortion and she almost had a heart attack. Ours might be "lifechoice" or whatever bullshit that is. I can't remember. Let me see...

Here we go: http://www.lifecall.org/cpc/ca.html, "Birthchoice of Temecula."

Luckily, we also have a WIC, and that's where I tell everyone to go, and they were the absolute nicest I could have expected anyone to be when I fell pregnant. I wish they advertised more, but I'm honestly afraid they'd get shut down or protested if the conservatives here knew what they were doing to help women. Because anything that doesn't end in a baby is bad for our community, ya know?
By WIC do you mean that government program that helps women who have trouble paying for basic groceries while they are pregnant or until the kid is school age or are you refering to another WIC?


Yesss. Women, Infants, Children or whathaveyou. The WIC center in town caters to all sorts of things, though. Prenatal care, birth control, gynecological referrals and exams, pregnancy tests, the morning after pill sometimes. It's where I went to make sure I was pregnant, and the director (or whatever) of the center, Gina, is the one who made the appointment for my abortion with me. They were very nice. No pressure at all either way.

Jazzberry


Jazzberry

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:22 pm


TheDemonNurse
"Death: Death has occurred after abortion, although this is rare. When abortion is done after the first three months of pregnancy, the risk of death increases. The cause of death by abortion is usually from heavy bleeding or from complications with the drugs used for pain."

What exactly are these drugs that they use? Oh and don't most women who die from pregnancy die because of blood loss?


I would guess, off the top of my head, the "deaths due to the drugs used for pain" would be general anesthesia?
In which case they should start recognizing that people dying due to twilight anesthesia isn't something unique to abortion.

I don't know what drugs I got, but it was nothing too serious. A sedative and a numbing agent on my cervix? They didn't put me under.
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