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 Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:12 pm
Well, for the most part, I'm not in favor of either name really. I consider myself either Black or American due to the fact that I was never born, raised or visited Africa and to carry the name, I would believe that a person must become a citizen. Such as an African moving to American and holding the name African American or an Asian coming here and holding the name Asian American.
To the subject, it's either a bias opinion or pure ignorance that people would slander a race of people just because a few act a certain way. I've met plenty of well off African Americans as well as once that I...not literally, wanted them to go back to their country. =P
My aunt can't stand them though.
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:51 pm
I personally think that Black Americans and Africans really dont know anything about each other and all we know is based off of stereotypes/ what is said in the media. And for that reason we just get at one another about everything.
I know alot of times my mother saids negative things about Africans, especially men.
But for me, I love all people of color. Recently I've been interested in learning about the different cultures in Africa, which I find very amazing.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:58 pm
Saito Matsura Well, for the most part, I'm not in favor of either name really. I consider myself either Black or American due to the fact that I was never born, raised or visited Africa and to carry the name, I would believe that a person must become a citizen. Such as an African moving to American and holding the name African American or an Asian coming here and holding the name Asian American.
color] thats the same way i feel. Now to the subject. my mom says the same things. and ive heard some pretty vile things come from the other side. It's rooted in ignorance. , prejudice from ignorance has been going on for a while. its said to be human nature. the sad thing is when we let it cloud our judgement
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:16 pm
All I have to say is that both natives from Africa and those who never lived in Africa, but have African blood, need to realize we're the same and degrading each other only hurts ourselves (Although I can understand how some Africans can have negative views of African-Americans due to Hip-Hop music).
Also, we need to have more pride in ourselves and not fuel negative stereotypes against us. Its like what Bill Cosby said, "Whites are no longer our enemies, we are."
majic's post=major truth.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:22 pm
Blak Majic Text book answer: African Americans still suffer today from the effects of slavery. Therefore, such events as mis-education, which causes ignorance, which causes animosity occurs on a people that were scarred from birth because of the color of their skin. Africans do not suffer from the same type of effects of African Americans. They suffer from what African Americans have that Africans dont. My AnswerAfricans are some of the most beautiful people in the world. AND CONTRARY TO POPULAR OPINION, Africans don't have problems with African Americans. In fact, they are very open and very welcome towards African-Americans. But a couple things im tired of: The ignorance of my fellow African American brothers and even I at times is what Immigrant Africans see when they arrive. They think "Black" is what they see on ******** BET. No. No. NO. I was asked recently by an African, "Are u a ******?". My first emotional response was shock. I said no. I am not. Then he asked, "Am i a ******?". I said HAIL!!! No. U see, Africans will take up to what they see as society sees African Americans. Africans will TAKE UP to what they see AS SOCIETY SEES African Americans. No. No. No. THats twisted and backwards. WE us African Americans should be lookin up to them. Their work ethic. Their struggle for makin it by. We listen to our bullshit Role Models Like Ludacris and Plies talkin bout "I Grew UP a Screw Up bullshit" and how "I Hustle all day" and "Im In Love With Money" and all that bullshit. Yea we went through s**t here. And yea racism and s**t still exists today. But thats A b***h Excuse. And WE ALL KNOW It. Were on the verge of maybe gettin a Black President. How the ******** u gon say, " WHite Man gots me down. I can't be nothing." Im tired of hearing that from my lazy African Americna Brothers. BULLSHIT. Im tired of it. We can learn some things from Africans. I went to Haiti last year. Quick History Lesson: Haiti was the sight of the only successful Slave Rebellion. With the help of Maroons. Maroons were rebel run away slaves that lived in the mountains and hills of the island of Haiti. I met Maroons. And I was enlightened by their work ethic, their mannerism, and their ability to never stay emotionally down. If u were to take a 5 Maroons (who look just like normal African Americans by the way) dress them in baggy jeans and white tees and mix them with 5 African Americans dressed the same way, I could tell the maroons from the African Americans, JUST FROM THE WAY THE STAND AND THE WAY THEY WALK. Maroons walk with their chests out, chin up, head high. Always. We should learn from them. Africans. The People of the Mother Land. The Beautiful People. Majic Has Spoken wink I'm Haitian and maroons WERE HAITIANS that escaped from the plantations, they were not a separate ethnic group, They just were the haitians that had the guts to run away from the white man and no longer live in abysmal slavery conditions. Yes, We haitians are the only people to succesfully kick out the colonial power (France) and declare our own independence which was declared on January 1, 1804, even though we really won the war in november of 1803, we wanted to rub salt in the wounds of the stupid french bastards ( biggrin ) My answer is that All Black peoples have problems because of recent history. Haiti, only god knows why, but it cant gets its F***ing act together, African Americans have their own problems like colorism, gangster mentality, and the way they portray themselves on T.V especially BET( not a good look cry ) Africans in Africa still have colonial mentalities. Anyone and anyplace that was touched by europeans has problems. But just about all groups of people have their problems, Blacks more so than others
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:33 pm
I live in Canada but Canada is just like in many, many ways so I can identify with a lot of things going on in America.
I'm 1st generation Somali and I see more African immigrants than I do African Canadians. Most African Canadians I've met immigrated from America or the Carribeans. And it's not because of which neighbourhood I live in. Anyway, I think the main difference between any black North American and an African living in North America is their cultures. Black North American culture is very much like any other American culture whereas African culture is totally different. For example, Somali cultural attitudes stress modesty in the dress of both men and women where most black North American (like most North Americans) feel that it's just personal preference on how much skin they show. Somali culture also looks down on promiscuity, rudeness towards elders, bringing shame onto the family (ie. by not graduating from college or high school and not getting a job - for both women and men), and older bachelors. I find that most blacks in North America don't look down on sex before marriage, and don't really find that any underachievement should bring shame onto the whole family.
Also, you can't really generalize African culture. Africa is a continent and there are many differences among African cultures itself. Also, Somalia is really the only African country whose culture I'm familiar with since I myself am Somali. Also, the religion of the country also comes into play. Somalia is a mostly Muslim country (99% Muslim) so their customs and values are sort of conservative. That doesn't mean that they disrespect women, women are expected to be as educated as men (at least in North America where there's actually an opportunity for a good job as a result of that education). The only similarity among most African immigrants and their kids is that they work really hard. They come to this country for opportunity (usually) so they won't waste the potential they can fulfill. Their parents or themselves have experienced difficulty in their country of origin and in America or Canada because they did not receive education in North America and don't understand English very well. So this struggle motivates them to work harder. The same goes for any immigrant family.
I haven't met any AFRICAN Canadian who looked down upon African CANADIANS. I find most African immigrants or 1st or 2nd, etc generations to be open-minded about everyone and usually enjoy African American culture. If they do have a problem with African CANADIANS, it's not specific to only African CANADIANS, it's towards anyone not from their African country and because of the cultural clashes and difference in values.
By the way, in Canada, people don't really use the term African Canadian but I did because it was just easier.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:49 am
Well i mite just stur up a storm in here, i am an african i live in africa,......only thing that makes me different is that im white.
i am one of those anglo-africans, i know most of you american blacks dont see us as african but i really couldnt care i know what i am.
im South African, and ive grown up predominatly with in the Zulu culture.
what ive noticed between African Blacks and American Blacks, the differences are:
they have tradition......therefore they show huge respect mostly noticable to elders and employers. .....americans dont have in in nearly the same degree.
they forgive alot easier than their american counterparts......in the zulu culture to forgive instead of revenge is called uBuntu, its like their version of karma. an example of uBuntu would be the when at the end of the apartheid era in south africa.
the worst in the actual black american concept of africa, most of you think their aids ridden, uneducated, savages that live in huts. I hate to break this to you guys but some of the best private schools in the world are in africa and i went to one of them.
Africans are very proud of our countries, to the point that we get quite insulted when we are refered to as one group, its like saying their heritage is just like everyone elses in africa......ha ha i know it pisses off the Zulu's since they were on the door step of conquering africa until my ancestors came along and put an end to that, something america have incommon with the Zulu they also defeated the english once unfortunatly they lost on the second round.
i dunno there's a huge difference between africans and black americans, not to offend but i prefer the africans the people are easier to respect( this in my opinion)
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:57 am
Saito Matsura Well, for the most part, I'm not in favor of either name really. I consider myself either Black or American due to the fact that I was never born, raised or visited Africa and to carry the name, I would believe that a person must become a citizen. Such as an African moving to American and holding the name African American or an Asian coming here and holding the name Asian American.
To the subject, it's either a bias opinion or pure ignorance that people would slander a race of people just because a few act a certain way. I've met plenty of well off African Americans as well as once that I...not literally, wanted them to go back to their country. =P
My aunt can't stand them though. i agree with you 100% im 4 generation anglo-African( white african) and no one in our family ever refers to ourselves as english anymore....we are south african....that is our culture, its the only home we know, i love mama Africa heart
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:18 pm
I think that alot of the adversity and issues between Africans and Black Americans is simply ignorance. You have to remember that it's the white man who created our history books, the starving child commercials.. etc. Subtle innuendos against African people, us American children are taught from the age of 5. A large percentage of the (American) population believes that Africa is solely made up of 3rd world countries and starving children with no parents.
This also kind of reminds me of the immigration patters in America.. starting from the Mayflower. The Europeans left because of religious persecution.. when the Irish came -- there was prejudice against them. It's a domino effect from the Irish to the blacks, to the jews, the mexicans, to the asians. And need I even speak about the Native Americans? No one likes to be at the "bottom". The Irish oppressed the Blacks moreso than any other ethnic group because they were at the "bottom" for so long.
Could it be that blacks have finally gotten their 'footing' in society? Why use a title that could potentially have a negative connotation?
Idk. Just some thoughts. I don't agree with the stereotypes by any means, but Ive heard them used in argument.
Kinda flipping in the opposite direction it blows me how when filling out the "race" portion of things, there are so many options for dark skinned people "Black or African American [non hispanic] "Black or African American [Hispanic]" "Latino" "Hispanic". Wait. WHAT?! And then you see the lonely "Caucasian". I don't get it. This being stated what IS African American? I know I'm an American.. but damn. Technically, aren't we ALL African-Something? Hummm and the lack of country-specific bothers me. Africa is a large continent. Oh. I must have forgot -- when they started shipping slaves BACK to Africa, they just kinda dropped them off in one country (Liberia I believe) despite where they were really from. Just drop all the brown skinned people off on one spot right? Just lump them all together.... Sorry for that rant..
Ending on a funny note, my freshman year of college I was in the bathroom at like 3 in the morning as were 3-4 other girls. We started talking about random things. Alot of times when I leave my friends I would say, "Alright now. Ya'll stay black," so I said that when I was finally going to bed and one girl replied, "HEY! HEY! I'm not black. I'm brown american." I had a riot laughing at her and to this day my friends and I still quote that. Anywhoooo. Im random. sweatdrop
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