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Dorian Requiem

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:18 am


Pyrokin132
Situation 2 ~~~
This time, It's a code. I love codes. This one is really just for fun. I'll warn you though, it's hard. Here's a hint. The key comes in apple, cherry, and pumpkin.

L DEOY FCOY ITZ BBYHT VUEYJ HVRV JUCDU!
In the times I've spent looking at this while cooking I've come up with nill, its a good puzzle. It would help to know if the spacing is random (and irrelivant) or if its a skeleton for what the answer has to do with. One 1 letter word, one 3 letter word, three 4 letter words, four 5 letter words.

If its a jumble, letters not included (and obviously not included in the answer then) are:
A G K M N P Q S W X
I'm wondering if its a mnemonic, or play on sounds. Anyone got any ideas? Reorganized I got this:
BB, CC, DD, EE, F, HH, I, JJ, L, OO, R, TT, UUU, VVV, YYYY, Z
31 characters, 12 vowels (with Y), and 19 consonants. I'll look at this in the next day or two....
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:29 pm


I was thinking it's a Vigenere cipher with "pie" as a key, but to no avail. Caesar ciphers don't use keys. It could be enciphered using Enigma, and "pie" could be a crib, but...eh. If it's a simple substitution cipher, there probably wouldn't be a key. There is a possibility that I'm taking "key" in the wrong way, or that I'm determining the key incorrectly.

In other words, I've given up. I got an A- in my Info&Coding class, that's good enough for me (my project on the Beale Papers kicked Karl's a**, and he knows it).

DrasBrisingr


VivoDePyre

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:10 pm


You're getting close. The letters are not scrambled and the spacing isn't random either. Perhaps there's more to the answer of the hint? ;]
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:36 am


For the peice of writing, about the man and the shadow, my answer is: there is no answer. Simply because it's screwed up, if he was walking in the hall and then was suddenly paralized, how was he cornered in his room? Either, you made a mistake OR that was on purpose for people who simply analyze every little detail, and point out mistakes in writing.

For the second thing: I have a qeustion, is it in a different language?

aki7the7worried


Dorian Requiem

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:44 pm


aki7the7worried
For the second thing: I have a question, is it in a different language?

A cryptogram. Excluding this one, the first time I've ever seen one was around, 2 am on January 1st 2008, so 'woo' *spins finger in the air*.

Basically, all the letters are replaced by other letter (they don't have to be letters in the original sentance). All of the same letters are replaced by the same letter (all "L"s become "B"s, all "N"s become "Q"s) so theres more structure then a jumble. "Cats and dogs" could be "Qsbt sqp pmnt".

So, is that what this is, or is it still a different 'puzzle'?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:29 am


Dorian Requiem
aki7the7worried
For the second thing: I have a question, is it in a different language?

A cryptogram. Excluding this one, the first time I've ever seen one was around, 2 am on January 1st 2008, so 'woo' *spins finger in the air*.

Basically, all the letters are replaced by other letter (they don't have to be letters in the original sentance). All of the same letters are replaced by the same letter (all "L"s become "B"s, all "N"s become "Q"s) so theres more structure then a jumble. "Cats and dogs" could be "Qsbt sqp pmnt".

So, is that what this is, or is it still a different 'puzzle'?
Actually, Sir, all of the "same letters" don't have to be replaced by the same letter. That would depend on the kind of code. For instance, for the Vigenere cipher, every "L" could be represented by a different letter. A Vigenere cipher is encoded by using a table of consecutive Caesar shifts and some sort of key.

DrasBrisingr


VivoDePyre

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:56 pm


DrasBrisingr
Dorian Requiem
aki7the7worried
For the second thing: I have a question, is it in a different language?

A cryptogram. Excluding this one, the first time I've ever seen one was around, 2 am on January 1st 2008, so 'woo' *spins finger in the air*.

Basically, all the letters are replaced by other letter (they don't have to be letters in the original sentance). All of the same letters are replaced by the same letter (all "L"s become "B"s, all "N"s become "Q"s) so theres more structure then a jumble. "Cats and dogs" could be "Qsbt sqp pmnt".

So, is that what this is, or is it still a different 'puzzle'?
Actually, Sir, all of the "same letters" don't have to be replaced by the same letter. That would depend on the kind of code. For instance, for the Vigenere cipher, every "L" could be represented by a different letter. A Vigenere cipher is encoded by using a table of consecutive Caesar shifts and some sort of key.

You're getting close, but none of you have figured out what I based the shifts off of. Figuring that out of course is essential.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:23 pm


Figured it out! (Highlight to see)

I can't wait for Super Smash Bros Brawl!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:37 pm


Dorian Requiem
Pyrokin132
Situation 2 ~~~
This time, It's a code. I love codes. This one is really just for fun. I'll warn you though, it's hard. Here's a hint. The key comes in apple, cherry, and pumpkin.

L DEOY FCOY ITZ BBYHT VUEYJ HVRV JUCDU!
I CANT WAIT FOR SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL!

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

sad how did you base the shifts?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:44 pm


I tried the Playfair Cipher, the Vigenere Cipher, vertical transposition and the caesar cipher, then gave up.

I don't see how the solution /can/ be a Caesar, since a) as Dras mentioned, they don't use keys, and b) the letter B is mapped to "H" in the second last word, and "J" in the last word. Likewise, even through 25 different shifts, I couldn't get the word "wait" to map to "fcoy", unless the shift changes for each letter (which would be just the tiniest bit cuntish). I still think the Playfair method is how to get it (although even when I combined I and J, or took out Q, I still couldn't get anything worthwhile).

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:28 pm


He said that the key came in apple, cherry, and pumpkin -- pie. Ergo, pi.

The first letter to decode is L. Since it's only a one letter word, it's pretty safe to think it's either an I or an A. If you go backwards three letters, the letter turns into an I.

3 is the first digit of pi.

The next digit is 1, and the next letter is D. So you go back one letter this time, and you get a C.

The next digit of pi is 4, and the next letter is E. Go back four letters and you get an A.

And so on...
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:04 am


Moonlit Jade
He said that the key came in apple, cherry, and pumpkin -- pie. Ergo, pi.

The first letter to decode is L. Since it's only a one letter word, it's pretty safe to think it's either an I or an A. If you go backwards three letters, the letter turns into an I.

3 is the first digit of pi.

The next digit is 1, and the next letter is D. So you go back one letter this time, and you get a C.

The next digit of pi is 4, and the next letter is E. Go back four letters and you get an A.

And so on...

xd brilliant.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:29 pm


Bah humbug. >_>
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:03 am


I think I'll abstain from any more puzzles. It was one of a list of skills I decided not to develope anymore at a young age, since they may serve to help me if I happened to be something like 'the one who must save *insert something here*" and I'm not enough of a go-getter to actually live a life with that. So I hoped that by no highly developing skills like that, someone else may be chosen instead and I could continue to procrastinate.

Dorian Requiem


VivoDePyre

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:26 pm


Yay, congrats people. Now I have to find some other way to be not bored. X_X
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