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 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:36 pm
Galad Damodred *bursts out laughing at the overreacting Christian "gunslinger"* Excuse me? C. S. Lewis wrote books promoting religion and disdaining atheism. They're now "beloved masterpiece ". Now that Pullman writes books promoting atheism and disdaining religion, people are jumping about, screaming that it's to be banned? Double standard much?
And they don't kill God. They kill the creature posing as God. A much bigger part of the story than "killing God" is the corruption within the Church. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Christianity as an establishment. Maybe that's what you should be yelling about?
People like you do not merely force me to redefine "moronic beyond measure", you legitimize the phrase's existence. Exactly. Pullman himself that it's not anti-religion, rather anti-dogmatic. (This is pretty much a family version of V for Vendetta I figured.) I do plan to see it just to see what all the fuss is about.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:14 pm
Galad Damodred *bursts out laughing at the overreacting Christian "gunslinger"* Excuse me? C. S. Lewis wrote books promoting religion and disdaining atheism. They're now "beloved masterpiece ". Now that Pullman writes books promoting atheism and disdaining religion, people are jumping about, screaming that it's to be banned? Double standard much?
And they don't kill God. They kill the creature posing as God. A much bigger part of the story than "killing God" is the corruption within the Church. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Christianity as an establishment. Maybe that's what you should be yelling about?
People like you do not merely force me to redefine "moronic beyond measure", you legitimize the phrase's existence.I do agree with you on some points. It would be nice, however, if you didn't use the phrase "moronic beyond mesure."
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:41 pm
The_Mortician Galad Damodred *bursts out laughing at the overreacting Christian "gunslinger"* Excuse me? C. S. Lewis wrote books promoting religion and disdaining atheism. They're now "beloved masterpiece ". Now that Pullman writes books promoting atheism and disdaining religion, people are jumping about, screaming that it's to be banned? Double standard much?
And they don't kill God. They kill the creature posing as God. A much bigger part of the story than "killing God" is the corruption within the Church. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Christianity as an establishment. Maybe that's what you should be yelling about?
People like you do not merely force me to redefine "moronic beyond measure", you legitimize the phrase's existence. Exactly. Pullman himself that it's not anti-religion, rather anti-dogmatic. (This is pretty much a family version of V for Vendetta I figured.) I do plan to see it just to see what all the fuss is about. Oh, V for Vendetta, I liked that movie. Even if it was a somewhat tamer version of the graphic novel.
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:50 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:04 pm
Galad Damodred *bursts out laughing at the overreacting Christian "gunslinger"* Excuse me? C. S. Lewis wrote books promoting religion and disdaining atheism. They're now "beloved masterpiece ". Now that Pullman writes books promoting atheism and disdaining religion, people are jumping about, screaming that it's to be banned? Double standard much?
And they don't kill God. They kill the creature posing as God. A much bigger part of the story than "killing God" is the corruption within the Church. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Christianity as an establishment. Maybe that's what you should be yelling about?
People like you do not merely force me to redefine "moronic beyond measure", you legitimize the phrase's existence.maybe u outta read all the previous posts instead of jus the first one.i didn't write it either. and if you'd read the previous posts u might've noticed that i agreed with statments that we shouldn't make a huge deal and go around picketing and starting riots and that everyone has their rights. and i also said it was to inform other people of the true meaning and why i personally wish not to go c it. people like u that use "moronic" inslults and push people away from posting with other believers that want civilized dissussion. not arguments.
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:15 pm
I do however agree with the point that there is corruption within the church.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:56 pm
In America over 60 cinema's did not show the Golden Compass after riots by local Christians. This is more proof that apparently Freedom of Speech is bound by rules.
It is about time we did not only hear Christians, but also atheists, considering the towers of evidence against Christianity, in favour of atheism.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:01 am
Well, I just saw the movie. And I can safely say that there is very little anti-Christian content. It's more against the religious dogma that hampers progress and the chains of musty, unneeded religion that restrict development and freethinking. Perhaps a little anti-Christian, but more anti-Catholic than anti-Christian in general; there are references to the process of castration which the Catholic Church once condoned because it made such a great difference to the music; castrati, you know, not to mention the Christian inability to accept any truth that is not their own. And the Catholic tendency to well-meaningly react violently to what they see as heresy.
Also, it doesn't promote atheism as much as the book. Hardly at all, really. I mean, one of the characters, Lord Asriel (enigmatic, charismatic, but somewhat suspicious and possibly dangerous) seems to be an atheist, but that's all, really.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:08 pm
Galad Damodred Well, I just saw the movie. And I can safely say that there is very little anti-Christian content. It's more against the religious dogma that hampers progress and the chains of musty, unneeded religion that restrict development and freethinking. Perhaps a little anti-Christian, but more anti-Catholic than anti-Christian in general; there are references to the process of castration which the Catholic Church once condoned because it made such a great difference to the music; castrati, you know, not to mention the Christian inability to accept any truth that is not their own. And the Catholic tendency to well-meaningly react violently to what they see as heresy. Also, it doesn't promote atheism as much as the book. Hardly at all, really. I mean, one of the characters, Lord Asriel (enigmatic, charismatic, but somewhat suspicious and possibly dangerous) seems to be an atheist, but that's all, really. for me personally even tho there isn't as much content in the movie as in the book i still don't want to c it because of some things im the books. also i think part of the movie's purpose was to attract attention to the books so people would read them.i kno i read the Harry Potter and Narnia books after i saw the movie. The only reason i really made this thread is so that Christians who didn't kno the symbolism behind the books or movie would kno before they went to c it or before they read it.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:34 pm
I've been saved for over a year now, but when I was still in the 'Dark Ages' of my life, I read Pullman's series. It is now sitting in a box marked 'Meghan B.C.', under the advice of my youth pastor's wife (I would have tossed or burned the books, but my mother didn't allow me to).
Some Christians can do things others can't, depending on their calling and the standards God requires for us. I have a friend who, I am fairly sure, saw the movie. She also listens to country music and reads secular fantasy novels.
God has standards for me that demand that I do not listen to secular music, read certain books (including Pullman's series), and other things.
My friend, who I mentioned earlier, is a leader in my youth group. She has been a Christian for a longer time than I have. I have asked her advice, and I consider her a fine source of godly knowledge. But what God's calling on her life is different than mine.
The release of this film angers me. It appears a good film for the whole family, when truthfully it is supporting something totally wrong. I was an atheist or agnostic for a general majority of my growing up, and I have read those books. Guard your heart, I beg of you. If you are a Christian and you are thinking about seeing this movie, pray about it, seek God's face, and obey Him, even if the answer is not to the liking of your flesh. It will most definitely benefit you later to follow God.
Don't be fooled by fleshly desires.
Love through the Light,
RD
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:55 pm
..."fleshly desires"? Methinks the lady is being overly melodramatic. There is nothing wrong with enjoying secular media. It is not like seeing other perspectives, experiencing mental stimulation and maybe even acknowledging some truth in a view other than the Christian way of thinking will anger the Lord. Beware the possibility that your religion may become your life. It is a bleak existence, having nothing but your faith, having nothing to take joy in but faith in a being who does not speak to you, does not touch you. Take it from someone who has seen the misery wrought by overzealous devotion.
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:03 am
Quote: She also listens to country music That made me lol.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:04 pm
Galad Damodred ..."fleshly desires"? Methinks the lady is being overly melodramatic. There is nothing wrong with enjoying secular media. It is not like seeing other perspectives, experiencing mental stimulation and maybe even acknowledging some truth in a view other than the Christian way of thinking will anger the Lord. Beware the possibility that your religion may become your life. It is a bleak existence, having nothing but your faith, having nothing to take joy in but faith in a being who does not speak to you, does not touch you. Take it from someone who has seen the misery wrought by overzealous devotion. She said that you should ask God whether or not to see the movie because it may not be suitable for one person or another.and i dont think shes in danger of religion becoming her life. more like God becoming her life. which is how we should want it. religion isn't God, its humanity's way of trying to get to God. its nothing like Him. Edited by The_Mortician: Please type whole words, not just the letters.
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