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the man of cheese

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:47 pm


this is a hard subject to comment on because most people are either totally for or totally against it. like all things it has its pros and con's.
i mainly here the cons and am mainly against it. but these are the major reasons...

when we started the war we where the richest country in the word, now we are trillions of dollars in debt...making us soon to be a 3rd world country if we aren't careful...but that is also the fault of the govt. and big businesses

when we started the war gas that was 1.50 (give or take) a gallon was expensive (locally).
now they predict it will be 4 dollars easily by the end of summer.

I believe that 9/11 WAS an act of war but was dealt with poorly, bin laden had attacked every 7 or so years in the past successfully bombing the world trade center in 1992.

on 9/11 3,000 plus people died,
today over 6,000 U.S. solders have died since the war started.

we started the war to get bin laden and to make him pay for 9/11
but we got Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with it.
--bush senor was friends with Saddam Hussein

if any off my information is errorous then let me know.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:43 pm


the man of cheese
this is a hard subject to comment on because most people are either totally for or totally against it. like all things it has its pros and con's.
i mainly here the cons and am mainly against it. but these are the major reasons...

when we started the war we where the richest country in the word, now we are trillions of dollars in debt...making us soon to be a 3rd world country if we aren't careful...but that is also the fault of the govt. and big businesses

when we started the war gas that was 1.50 (give or take) a gallon was expensive (locally).
now they predict it will be 4 dollars easily by the end of summer.

I believe that 9/11 WAS an act of war but was dealt with poorly, bin laden had attacked every 7 or so years in the past successfully bombing the world trade center in 1992.

on 9/11 3,000 plus people died,
today over 6,000 U.S. solders have died since the war started.

we started the war to get bin laden and to make him pay for 9/11
but we got Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with it.
--bush senor was friends with Saddam Hussein

if any off my information is errorous then let me know.

There are a number of things that I have issues with in your arguments.

First, we were in debt long before the Iraq war started. If I remember correctly, we've been in debt since the Civil War, if not before. It's been fixed before, but never entirely and never for a long period of time. Government spending--part of which goes to the Iraq war, yes--is the main issue there, but not all the money goes to the Iraq war, or even the bulk. The government's trying to control everything and help everyone, and that's just not possible. Especially since people don't want to pay more taxes, even though they want more welfare and help and whatever else. Government is a give-take process: To give help to people, it needs money. If people want lower taxes, they have to expect debt. And I'm relatively sure we'll never be able to fall down to third-world country status, unless one of the countries we're currently in debt to decides to be vindictive and call in their debt. Odds are slim for that happening, because some of those countries (especially China) are dependent on the US for a lot of its jobs (outsourcing, anyone?). Plus, we're already an industrialized democracy. We can't become un-industrialized. Third-world countries are generally mostly unindustrialized, which is what makes them third-world. But I digress.

Second, gas prices have absolutely nothing to do with the war and everything to do with oil companies being greedy.

I like how you mention how many US soldiers died in the last five years or so, but made no mention of the amount of Iraqi people have died. Not soldiers, but civilians, too.

I'm relatively sure Bush Sr. wasn't friends with Hussein. He just ignored him instead of taking steps to remove him from office.

Last point (this one's important): Bin Laden had nothing to do with the Iraq war. We went into Iraq because Bush convinced the Senate that they had WMDs. The government knew that bin Laden was in another country back then and probably now. 9/11 had nothing to do with the start of the war. All it did was let Bush get away with invading another country with less restriction and little to no opposition at the time. 9/11 shouldn't even be brought up when talking about the Iraq war, in my opinion.

That said, I have no real opinion either way on the Iraq war. n.n"

NightIntent


[]^Jametrius^[]

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:30 pm


Actually, speaking of 9-11, I feel it Can be touched on at least a little in reference to the war in Iraq, mainly because many may feel 9-11 should have really been the focus. We should be after Bin Laden instead. One fact I do know, whenever there is a war, the president makes money. it could be more than just looking for weapons of mass destruction here. Money could, and most likely is a factor as well. By now however, since its already been done, it probably is best that the troops stay in Iraq, just to keep the chances of terrorism to a minimum. I personally do not favor war. if only people, AND leaders of the world put their egos aside, and think about the chaos fighting brings, pehaps diplomacy would be a stronger force in solving problems.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:41 am


Wylde Style
Obviously we should have done something, otherwise they would continue with the attacks.

I'm just wondering how thickheaded Iraq could have been to terrorize us, because of a religion.

And yes, I believe that was the cause of them attacking us. I can't recall exactly, been sometime since I've discussed it, but Muslims in general hate and are supposed to kill Christians. It's a war that's been going on for a long time now. To me that makes the most sense. If that wasn't the reason, what? Were they board, spun a wheel and which ever country the arrow landed on was who was getting terrorized for 20 years? Did they think they would take over America? Other than religious issues, it just doesn't make much sense eh? .____.


I'm sorry.. but Muslims are not supposed to attack Christians. There's no reason why Muslims are supposed to. You may be asking, "Then why they attacked America?". Well, to tell you the truth, I don't know why. I don't understand why. I don't think just because there are differences in religion, it's a reason good enough to start a war. There must be more behind all this things.

Digital Bee


I--Agrona--I

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:29 pm


I'm certain there are other reasons, but I wouldn't count difference in religion out. Over the past historical years, there wer ein fact wars over religion. its probably not probable such a reason would be to fight in This day and age. Times Have indeed changed.
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