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SaberFireTiger
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:26 am


Grant Gabrial
My name is Julian Luthor!


After reading Foetus' pm I dismissed the idea of Grant being Julian thinking she was joking. You know, messing with me cause we often joke about stuff like this. Oh how I was wrong.

There are many things that make my eye twitch about the current situation with our new Daily Planet editor... aside from him macking on Lois.


arrow Apparently he is another one of the Luthor spawn between Lionel and Lillian correct? But as see in "Memoria" Julian is "killed" by this mother. Lex takes the blame which causes great trauma and mental instability later on. Lex wouldn't be rocking that blue blanket in his hands and singing to it if he knew his brother was alive. Let's face it, Lex is no Hamlet faking his crazy, he totally lost is marbles. Now, all of a sudden, Julian is alive and well with no explaination as to how the two found eachother or got into contact. I would think Lex wouldn't believe anyone who came to his door saying they were Julian. It took Lex seven months to find Lucas but that was only because Lex knew there was a possibility he was alive. Why search for Julian when you saw him get killed?

Age
arrow Lets give a general timeline. Lex lost his hair in the 1989 meteor shower when he was nine. That makes him 26/27 now. Julian was born when Lex was 12. Making Julian about 15.

Does this look 15?!
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Exactly. I doubt the Daily Planet could hire a 15 year old to be editor even if he was a Luthor.


Theories

arrow That Grant is Julian's clone. Yes it sounds perposterous and is joked about but it isn't all that out there knowing what Lex has been doing right? Lex was obviously attached to Julian so why now make himself a little brother. He did make himself a fake wife. But Grant stated that he didn't want to be another one of Lex's experiments which gives me the ickling that he is human. He doesn't seem like a zombie or a robot pieced together. But you never know.

arrow Not really Julian. Just another child named Julian. Could be another one of the Lionel Luthor children like Lucas that was named Julian or Lex really really wanted an actual brother and took some kid off the street. However, I don't think they would make this big of a deal out of a different kid named Julian.

All I know is the writers had Lex do something with his vast technology and supply of meteor rock and infected people to concoct up some way for this storyline to work.


As the show progresses I am more and more confused and aggrevated by the retroactive continuity. So Smallville, a toast to you, you have really outdone yourself this time. I am no longer able to predict your next step other than by shouting out crack theories. Cheers.

Anyone notice the episode number backwards? It's how I see smallville now, all backwards.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:40 am


I also thought it was a joke when I first heard it -- but then I saw it in too many places for it not to be a joke.

The only thing that makes any kind of sense is if he's actually a clone.

And by "sense" I mean... well, you know.

Foetus In Fetu


SaberFireTiger
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:39 pm


Yeah it makes a lot of sense. [/sarcasm]

I just don't get how they manage to do this. Like we haven't been watching for the past seven seasons.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:46 pm


I'm sure they will come up with a half assed reasoning behind the whole thing within a few episodes.

Something like, Lillian didn't actually kill him. She attempted and thought he was dead so she stopped. He only looked dead. Lex saw him and thought he was dead to and it automatically made him go a bit crazy when in reality he was barely alive so Lionel had him secreted away some place. Years later Julian decided he was done with sitting around being the hidden Luther so he ran away and went into hiding, seeking out Lex on his own. So the thing now is that Lionel knows that Julian is alive someplace but doesn't know where and he certainly doesn't know its Grant NOR that Lex knows.

That might just be half assed enough for them to use, don't ya think?

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zach61092

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:12 am


Ya, that doesn't make any sense! scream
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:53 pm


I doubt Lionel would lose track of someone as important as Julian. I'm going to compare him to Lucas because it is a similar situation. Lionel found him and kept track of him for the better part of Lucas's life. But in Blue, Lex obviously was afraid that his father would find out.

Or Lionel maybe losing his touch. Still, I just can't imagine Grant going up to Lex and saying, "Hey big bro, I'm Julain."

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Foetus In Fetu

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:21 am


I'm telling you he's a clone!

He had like eight million lines about Lex not creating him in a test tube, and how he wouldn't be there if not for Lex and so on and so forth.

He doesn't know it -- but he's a clone.

Plus it's a parallel with the Zor-El/Lara storyline.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:23 am


Oh Emily Dinsmore how you have messed up everything.

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crystalsmuse
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:34 am


I think they just expect people not to notice. Or not care enough. But not US! We see e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:06 pm


Yup, just because they don't have brains doesn't mean they can assume we don't. We notice everything! They just mess up a lot of things. Like just think what would have happened if Jor-El stayed with Lana's aunt? That episode burned the eyes out and blew my mind cause it destroyed by vision of Jor-El and Lara. Now they are totally messing up Lex's storyline cause his whole life he has had to deal with murdering his brother and his father hating him and it shaped who he is but no, it is alright cause Julian is actually alive. Nevermind what we said before about him being dead.

Sorry rambled.

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Foetus In Fetu

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:31 pm


Yeah, I felt like that episode really undermined the love between Jor-El and Lara -- although I wonder if they were trying to do a version of the Clark/Lana rehash (obviously) rolled up with the Clark/Lori storyline from the comics (Lori, the mermaid who lived on land as part of her coming of age and chose to go back to the sea instead of staying with Clark).

The problem is, while we can plainly see why Clark and Lois are better for eachother than Clark and Lana and why it works in the comics, we've never been able to see what was so great about Jor-El and Lara -- so you could say Jor-El loved Lana's aunt more, and there's nothing to say otherwise on the show.

Although I guess if we're talking nature v nurture for Clark's development, and how he got his morality from Jonathan and Martha, it doesn't really matter what Jor-El thought about Lara.

But now they're undermining "Memoria", you're right, which is their own canon, and which sucks.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:54 pm


I mean it makes it look like Jor-El was more into Lana's aunt and Lara was just someone he had to marry. Ruins the magic of the loving parents who sent their son away to save him. And Lara supposedly loved Jor-El and couldn't leave him so yeah. Just argh.

Smallville is good in it's own way but I hate how it messes up other things in superman mythology and stuff they wrote.

SaberFireTiger
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`Chloe Sullivan`

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:15 pm


Smallville kind of has that problem. They start these story lines all the time and like forget about it or expect everyone to forget. Like with Chloe's mom, it happened a lot. Like before she said that her mom left when she was 5 and her dad was in the kitchen "trying to make pancakes" but then they had her saying that her mom left when she was like 10 or twelve.
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