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chicory-dock

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:42 pm



Dependence on technology cannot be a good thing. I appreciate the fact that life is significantly easier with it, but it's still pathetic to realize that we already go into such a big panic when a power failure occurs.

Movies like The Matrix just make me more paranoid. XP
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:23 pm


I believe that we are given souls upon our birth. These machines wouldn't have these souls, no matter how advanced we make them. They will not be unique. They will follow their programming, and that is all. They will never truly have emotions. No matter how real we make them look, they are still machines.

However, we must be careful about how much intelligence we give them. If they become smart enough to know that they are superior to us then they may decide to take over. We must make sure they are not smart enough to override their programming.

I do not think that they will be the problem, however. If they become smart enough, they can be used as super assassins or war machines. We are more likely to cause our own destruction than they are.

Guardian1239


Enciser

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:29 am


one problem would be that robots wouldn't die and it would be that robots wouldn't die and it would be up to us to deactivate(kill) them this would be made significantly harder for us to kill them if they had the same human qualitys as us i mean would you rather kill a human or destroy a toaster
therefore with the constant inability for most of us to deactivate (kill) something with the same quality's as us our world would become infested with robots therefor we are just asking for trouble creating something that we have
an inability to destroy. also if there was a self destruct program programed into them, then the corpses would create landfill by haveing the inability to decompose like us nateral beings.
my conclusion is that when robots may sound cool they would be a real problem to the earth
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:18 am


enciser
one problem would be that robots wouldn't die and it would be that robots wouldn't die and it would be up to us to deactivate(kill) them this would be made significantly harder for us to kill them if they had the same human qualitys as us i mean would you rather kill a human or destroy a toaster
therefore with the constant inability for most of us to deactivate (kill) something with the same quality's as us our world would become infested with robots therefor we are just asking for trouble creating something that we have
an inability to destroy. also if there was a self destruct program programed into them, then the corpses would create landfill by haveing the inability to decompose like us nateral beings.
my conclusion is that when robots may sound cool they would be a real problem to the earth


just think of all the movies we've seen.. terminator, the matrix, AI (I felt bad for the kid at the end.).

Calypsophia


Andromeda Zreng

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:32 am


Honestly, I think it's quite interesting.
But does anyone realize how much processing power you'd have to have to make a robot do something as simple as tie a shoe? Honestly, to make a fully capable AI being it would take way more processing power than we have. Artificial intelligence is the career field I'm following. I find it extremely intriguing. I don't think it's wrong. I mean, seriously, if God didn't want us to know something, He never would have put it in anyone's head. Besides, they would make fun playthings!
And as for them outsmarting us, it takes WAY WAY WAY more processing power than we will EVER have to make a system that will learn. Even if we did have a "learning" system, it could only ever start out as smart as the person who made it. And it would have the same logic and thought processes as whoever made it. Really, the hypothesis that robots could take over humans is only science fiction.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:20 pm


jensenns
Honestly, I think it's quite interesting.
But does anyone realize how much processing power you'd have to have to make a robot do something as simple as tie a shoe? Honestly, to make a fully capable AI being it would take way more processing power than we have. Artificial intelligence is the career field I'm following. I find it extremely intriguing. I don't think it's wrong. I mean, seriously, if God didn't want us to know something, He never would have put it in anyone's head. Besides, they would make fun playthings!
And as for them outsmarting us, it takes WAY WAY WAY more processing power than we will EVER have to make a system that will learn. Even if we did have a "learning" system, it could only ever start out as smart as the person who made it. And it would have the same logic and thought processes as whoever made it. Really, the hypothesis that robots could take over humans is only science fiction.


well, yes it would take alot of processing. i highly doubt it will happen anytime soon, but who knows. i will not rule out the possibility.
I think we could however potentially create something like the "robots" in the story RUR: rossum's universal robots. (by the way, this is where the term "robot" originally came from) It is something like a
semi-mindless clone of sorts. think "the robots in the movie I-robot" but as clones, not machines.
we DO have clone technology, and we do have alot of information about DNA. thus, I'm sure they could easily "turn off" the free thinking/free will genes to create obidiant unquestioning servants, not to mention turning off the reproduction genes so that peoples servants could not reproduce freethinking child servants.


now, dont go thinking I am some pro slavery freak. far from it. I'm just stating what I think is possible

azrael the reaper_95210


emo_hippie_chick

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:44 pm


i don't think it is a very good idea. i say that because there is always a possibility that human's will screw it up and make a machine too smart and we could have a real life re-enactment of i, robot [has anyone seen that movie?] it's a stretch....

but the truth of the matter is that human technology is not advanced enough to do that.

what would be cool and accually beneficial would to place a limited amount of a.i. technology into prosthetics [arms, and legs for handicapped people] so they can function easier 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:44 pm


emo_hippie_chick

what would be cool and accually beneficial would to place a limited amount of a.i. technology into prosthetics [arms, and legs for handicapped people] so they can function easier 3nodding
I have no idea where my head was at...


Biomechanics. The only problem with that would be that the prosthetic would have to be able to know what the person wanted it to do. Basically, the computer would have to read your mind. Theoretically, it could be voice-activated, but who wants to walk through Wal-Mart talking to their robotic leg? "Step. Step. Step." However, biomechanical scientists are working on a prosthetic arm for war veterans that is actually built into the shoulder and responds to the electrical impulses sent by the brain to the arm that isn't there anymore.

but if my heart says I'm sorry, can we leave it at that?

Andromeda Zreng


KamikazeSkies

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:18 pm


I think the idea is pure crap.
When the person learns about the world, who will tell them that...
-They are only an experiment.
-They have no parents like normal people.
-They're completely expendable.
-They have no purpose.

Really, who would be willing to take the heat after telling that to someone?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:26 pm


I don't think the real problem is in them becomming so smart that they overthrow humanity..I think scientists and robot developers are at least that smart enough to limit knowledge. After all, they are limited by thier programming and safety firewalls and special coding can be installed. The problem isn't robots, it's the people making them and the reasons behind it. We as a nation have become too tech-dependant because it makes our lives easier. We are becomming more and more lazy and self-interested. On top of that, many people have lost thier jobs because of technology. Some jobs no longer exist today in big-time corperations because it's cheaper to buy a machine. That's one very big problem. And if you really want to go sci-fi for reasons, watch Chobits. Thinking computers that look like and act like human beings that humans get emotionally attached to.

King Robert Silvermyst

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