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A lot of times when your going through a Final Fantasy 7 forum you will hear someone ask or debate on who is better, Cloud or Zack. To me that question is far more complex and far deeper into the story then most think. Sure Cloud did what Zack failed to do and killed Sephiroth and sure Zack could have gotten stronger over all that time just like Cloud did if he hadn't died. But what you have to understand is that in a way Cloud is Zack. He carries a large portion of his memory and identity. Notice how after Zack died Cloud suddenly gained the ability to wield the Buster Sword, as if he had also gained so much of Zack's strengths and talents. In the beginning of the game you were taking on men with machine guns which tells you that Cloud definatly was as strong as a First Class Soldier from the start of the game. So it seemed that Cloud was fighting as Zack the whole time. Yet Cloud killed Sephiroth, so far that tells you that eventually Zack would have done the same, but no, Zack shouldn't have been enough. But something happened in the game that changed the course of everything, the death, of Aerith. As Aerith died, a new Cloud was born just like when Zack died. After that dreadful day he began to fight to the edges of his limits and beyond. The Memory of it is what drives him forward and gives him that undomidable will. Just as Tifa explained in Advent Chlidren during the fight with Kadaj. When Cloud fought Sephiroth at the end of the Game, I think that was more a battle within himself. But at the end of Advent Children it was the real thing, it was time to fight Sephiroth, the monster who appeared to be a god among the greatest warriors. Sephiroth seemed superior in every way, but Cloud kept pushing himself to his level. Victory seemed impossible and Sephiroth seemed to have won. But just as Clouds fatal demise seemed inevitable, the second, Thee Second, Sephiroth reminds him of what he's fighting for, Cloud reaches a level of power unheard of, even by the great Sephiroth. And the Jenova Tragedy had come to an end. So, My result is Zack would have no chance at defeating Sephiroth. But if not for Zack's death, and the death of Aerith, Sephiroth and Jenova would have never been defeated. Thus I conclude that it was not Cloud who won, it was all three of them together. Which shows why at the end of Advent Children as it showed Zack and Aerith, Cloud realised that he wasn't alone during that battle, and he never will be ever again.

(lol hope you like my theory, I have done a lot of thinking about this, please leave a comment if you have one)

I dont know who Zack is but I think Cloud is the best and I hope he never dies unless of old age.

Interesting theory, but I won't go for it. I have my own reasons which delve much farther into the game than most would ever want to go. But that isn't the point.


It is pointed out, over.. and over... and over, how poor of a character Cloud is. It is emphasized how much weaker he is than Sephiroth. But he wins. He wins because he is the "good guy". Good must always prevail.

Good and evil are naught but perceptions. Who said that Sephiroth was wrong? Cloud didn't even say that. His reason for fighting was because Sephiroth destroyed Nibelheim. Sure, cannon has it that he also killed a decent amount of people in the process, but if you're going to delve into the logic and ideas behind the game, you would know that isn't very likely.

I have my own major theory on these things, and it highly contradicts what you have said, as well as what most people say.


If anyone is interested, ask. PM me. IM me. Whatever. Forgive the laziness, but I don't feel like writing literally pages if no one is even interested in what I have to say.

Well, I'll admit my PM didn't quite cover it all, but if it made sense, it would be a start. stare As I said - I could go on if you'd like, though. Maybe get to the point(s) you were looking to hear.

I think Crisis Core is not canon. Just like any other FFVII game that isn't the original.

And no, I don't think it's weird. Other than he just randomly woke up. You know. Instead of died. But what's a game without its main protagonist?